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Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by lalos »

superflyguy wrote: post #9
lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

This is an altruistic move on Microsoft's part? Puhleaze. And Google routinely gets beaten up for killing projects, it's just that nobody used Google Code.

I will have to disagree with that, back in the day I remember using more Google Code than Github. Maybe I was more into fringe projects that were not big enough and on Github, but in my personal experience the pain was felt when we lost a bunch of issues and documentation of the platform and not the code itself or the binaries. Plus, this seems like a strategy of Microsoft to win some brownie points in the open source community unless they see a huge money making opportunity that I'm not seeing.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by some_account »

lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

Please tell me you are trolling people. You can't seriously believe what you are writing here. Microsoft is an ugly company with ugly business practices and they are absolutely not trying to save anybody.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by alexeiz »

lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

> Microsoft is trying to save a vital company...

So Microsoft is in the "company saving" business now? This couldn't be farther from the truth. They bought Github not to save it, but to use it as a resource for whatever goals they deem appropriate. And I really doubt Microsoft's goals align with open source well.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by optimuspaul »

some_account wrote: post #12
lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

Please tell me you are trolling people. You can't seriously believe what you are writing here. Microsoft is an ugly company with ugly business practices and they are absolutely not trying to save anybody.

Have you been paying attention to Microsoft over the past few years? They have an ugly past, but they are a different company now. I actually think this is a good thing for the community. I for one am sticking with GitHub.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by preinheimer »

some_account wrote: post #12
lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

Please tell me you are trolling people. You can't seriously believe what you are writing here. Microsoft is an ugly company with ugly business practices and they are absolutely not trying to save anybody.

Could you expand on what you're saying here? How are they ugly? What previous acquisitions in this realm have they screwed over?

I'd love to educate myself further, but need more details.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by uncletammy »

lalos wrote: post #3

I don't understand why the people have this huge team mentality. If this team does that, it wrong, if another does it it is ok. Google cancelled Google Code with no backlash, or at least not to this level. Microsoft is trying to save a vital company in the open source community that didn't even have a CEO or any path to profitability and people react like they are going to ban all projects that are not C#. Not only i…

> Not only in tech, but elsewhere I see a trend of just following a herd mentality instead of judging every action by it's own weight or at least let it play out.

It's a consequence of hooking up all world's information before people understand how to safely digest it. It will fix itself if we can find an equilibrium before we all destroy each other.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by throw_away2 »

Arubis wrote: post #5

Arguments about migration itself aside, using SourceForge as a destination would last have occurred to me about 15 years ago. Very puzzling title.

It's like reading an article about how people don't use freshmeat any more. Freshmeat is apparently now owned by the same people as sourceforge and slashdot, so when they get that time machine back to 1999 hooked up, they're going to be rolling in the money.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by mkirklions »

loganabbott wrote: post #10

Almost nothing in this article is accurate. We’ve been doing everything we can to improve SourceForge and we did not hide anything. The writer has an axe to grind for some reason, and maybe his anger is warranted, but it's definitely directed at the wrong people. https://sourceforge.net/blog/introducing-the-new-sourceforge...

>Removed bundled adware from projects

Too late, already lost my trust.

This was unexcusable to let happen years ago and was one of the scummiest things I experienced in the software world.

I havent used sourceforge in years and have gone out of my way to avoid it. They cannot be trusted.

Re: Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

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Post by preinheimer »

loganabbott wrote: post #10

Almost nothing in this article is accurate. We’ve been doing everything we can to improve SourceForge and we did not hide anything. The writer has an axe to grind for some reason, and maybe his anger is warranted, but it's definitely directed at the wrong people. https://sourceforge.net/blog/introducing-the-new-sourceforge...

Having read some of the articles around the missing SVN commits it certainly didn't seem to me like SourceForge was being transparent (or "New"). Was there some big outreach after that incident I would have missed?
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