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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by gingerlime »

Brakenshire wrote: post #93
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

> the same company, only with different cash cows. I think having different cash cows does change a company. If it's in their interest to be a good steward of VSCode, Typescript, Github etc then they're more likely to do it. I think consolidation is actually as much of an issue as which company it is, the more consolidated, arguably the less direct incentive for intercompatibility and open standards. That's more of a…

> On privacy, that's never stopped anyone from using Angular or Kubernetes because of Google, or React because of Facebook, unfortunately behaviour towards developers seems to be judged separately from behaviour towards users.

That's not the same though. I host my (company private) code on Github. I can use React or Kubernetes without giving any access to Google or Facebook to my code.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by thelastidiot »

Today, I decided to move to GitLab. Thank god there is an alternative. I won't give one penny to Microsoft since I remember all the deceptive methods they used to retain their market shares. Their CEO was in the company when all of that happened so don't come and tell me that things have changed.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by retrogradeorbit »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

s/Microsoft/Apple/ s/Xbox/iPad/

I dislike Microsoft a lot. But Apple, just as much. People will take a dump on Microsoft while in the same breath fawn over Apple for identical behaviour.

They're all as bad as each other. Yep. Google included.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by samlambert »

Here at GitHub, we’re excited for what this acquisition means for the future of software development and open source. We’ll remain focused on putting the developer community first and will stay an open platform to continue to serve developers in all industries.

There has been so much excitement from both sides during this process. Our shared values around empowering developers across the globe made this a natural fit

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by bovermyer »

sametmax wrote: post #86
bovermyer wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping in mind, of course, that Ballmer's Microsoft is very, very different from Nadella's Microsoft...

Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

It might be more accurate to say it's a hypothesis rather than an opinion.

If it would legitimize my claim that Microsoft is different under Nadella, I can write a blog post about it with supporting data.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by rootlocus »

heckanoobs wrote: post #45

I'm excited by this. I feel trapped between Google who will give everything away in exchange for spying on me, and Apple who will respect my privacy but shake me upside down with the most ridiculous vendor lock-in tactics. I'm glad someone as powerful as Microsoft can play the underdog role and provide a viable third alternative. Windows laptops that run Linux well enough for development. VS Code. I now develop on my…

> Microsoft will fix that.

You have no way of knowing what Microsoft will or will not fix. This is just blind hype.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by 8u23u0893290u »

ethbro wrote: post #112
sametmax wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause. Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves. Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!

A couple years ago, when they had that bug in Win10 that broke webcams, folks here were all "Oh the downfall of software quality at MS! They used to be great!"

Those of us who had to admin their products pre-Win7 era were all "What?"

To the average user at home, perhaps the experience seemed smooth most of the time. But they've been peddling half-assed efforts and relying on a "walled garden" approach to computing since before the iPhone.

They failed to notice the "lifestyle" changes taking place in IT until recently, is all.

They're still Evil Corp, and want you to dedicate yourself to building out their empire for them.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ebbv »

naiyt wrote: post #102
titanix2 wrote: post #43

"Cloud blablabla committed blablabla responsability blablabla developers blablabla empower blablabla open-source" Clearly written by HMM: Human Markov Model.

> The era of the intelligent cloud and intelligent edge is upon us. I still have no idea what "intelligent edge" is supposed to mean.

It's the current hot buzzword. It's CDN++, where not just static content gets distributed but web applications get sharded/distributed around the globe to the nearest node to the end user.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by pas »

evfanknitram wrote: post #143
mkirklions wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

Because their developer tools are pretty good and finding jobs as a .NET developer is pretty easy?

It's pretty easy for non .NET jobs too.

Their developer tools are pretty good for their own platform (but JetBrains actually makes great cross platform tools, some of them are proper free and open source, VSCode is playing catch up). Their C++ stdlib implementation was sucking balls for decades. Their (the dev tools') scriptability was horrible. PowerShell is nice, but it came too late, and it was too server focused.

C# is okay, MS has great teams and people, but they are still very much run by the bean counters.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ksec »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

>Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans.

Not a Fan, but judging from their recent work, I am giving them the benefits of doubt.

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