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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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post #69

Gitlab is not comparable to Github at all. Gitlab is just about hosting git projects that's all. It's not community driven at all.

From a development perspective, it's actually very community driven https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?label_name%5B...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#132
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause. Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves. Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!

I had this debate for the last 10 years, and everytime there are persons to say "maybe this time they changed", and everytime use something like "Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake".

The problem with a PR machine is that it never get tired of repeating the same story, while we do. And people eventually listen to the PR machine anyway. That's why it works. Not because it's clever, but because of human nature.

It works with politician, CEO, singers...

But yeah, we'll see.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#133

I'm actually happy about this acquisition. For everything that all the 13 y/o "hackers" say on Reddit, this will hopefully be a great thing for the wider community.

What do you envision happening that will be great [for the current GitHub userbase]?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#134
post #85

I am a GitLab user and have been for about 2 years now. With that being said, I think this acquisition makes a ton of sense strategically. Microsoft has really been trying to change their identity from being a stuffy close-source corporation to an open company that developers can rely on. And they have done pretty well at this. They open sourced .net, run MS SQL on Linux, and have released the WSL (which would have b…

It is reported that GH makes about $200M a year.

Right, but my understanding is they are not profitable (they were, but have been trying to work back toward profitability).

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#135
Its ironic that the three men in the first picture are as uncomfortable and edgy as the developers are.

Can someone explain why this merger is bad, beyond the usual refrain "Microsoft is evil"? I mean, I rally want to understand what the fuss is all about. It isn't like all our repositories are locked in some proprietary GitHub format and now we are at the mercy of MS. As is happening, people can always migrate elsewhere, and there is always going to be an elsewhere.

Are people upset that they have to take the pains to migrate due to Microsoft's involvement? In that case, it begs the question why is it bad at all. Currently, with my trouble understanding this, it seems like a knee jerk reaction, like disgruntled Americans talking about migrating to Canada post Trump.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#136
post #106

I reported a bug in a Microsoft product earlier this year, one whose only effect was to complicate interop with a minor opensource competitor. They handled that fairly, promptly and well. Microsoft isn't the same company as ten and twenty years ago.

> Microsoft isn't the same company as ten and twenty years ago.

It's not because you had one positive experience with one small part of MS that it means the whole company's culture has suddenly reversed to be philanthropic or something.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#137

I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…

> Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they discontinued the product, shocker.

They do, it just can't pretend to be a full on computer, see the iPad.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#138
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause. Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves. Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!

It doesn't have to be astroturfing. Repeatedly exposing HN readers to the same news would be a good way to gradually increase positive opinion until a desirable threshold is reached ("the first positive top comment").

You'll have to walk me through your logic on that again.

How is repeated exposure more likely to increase positive opinion?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#139
Yes, I think people should expect to move.

Microsoft cannot be trusted.

They make fine products, but they are definitely looking to make money from this acquisition.

EDIT: This is to say that Github was not looking to squeeze their users. I have been squeezed by microsoft.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

You’ll see the same thing with Google. I’ve found quite a few Google shills on here

Well yes, they all have huge com departments with people creating accounts and maintaining it for years to get organic reputations.

We stopped trusting TV and starting trusting each other more. So they started disguising as us. It's the natural evolution.

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