Microsoft acquires Github • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by pavlov » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:35 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #75

pavlov wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why were you not concerned previously about an unprofitable SV startup holding that central position? GitHub wasn’t a non-profit. This was always the endgame for them. They were losing money to acquire a userbase that would be sold when the time is right — just like WhatsApp and numerous other big social SV plays.

Remember that _GitHub used to be profitable_. Then they took $250m in investment and became unprofitable.

And that was three years ago. So what’s the point of outrage now?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by madebysquares » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:35 PM UTC

Curious why they are changing CEOs if they want to continue the culture and community.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by timvisee » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:35 PM UTC

Will be moving everything over to some different server this evening. So damn happy that that's easily possible with the decentralized approach within Git.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by mkirklions » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:36 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans.

Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer.

Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit.

This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:36 PM UTC

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by bloopernova » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:36 PM UTC

naiyt wrote: post #102

titanix2 wrote: post #43

"Cloud blablabla committed blablabla responsability blablabla developers blablabla empower blablabla open-source" Clearly written by HMM: Human Markov Model.

> The era of the intelligent cloud and intelligent edge is upon us. I still have no idea what "intelligent edge" is supposed to mean.

Are we the intelligent edge?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by diffeomorphism » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:36 PM UTC

> judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future.

But please, please not the slightly less recent past? And not the telemetry stuff? And not the patent extortions? ...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by mkirklions » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

distances wrote: post #109

bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Have they not killed Nokia or ruined Skype? I don't think one can say they killed Nokia. Nokia's phone business was basically doomed after Android gained traction, and Microsoft just helped the company to pivot by overpaying for that part of the business, while leaving Nokia with everything that actually was making money.

I dont like Microsoft, but I'm not sure how they killed skype.

Yes there were a few dark years, but I think most IM was struggling years ago.

Now skype is pretty good.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by dorfcakeling » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

ethbro wrote: post #112

sametmax wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause. Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves. Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!

It doesn't have to be astroturfing. Repeatedly exposing HN readers to the same news would be a good way to gradually increase positive opinion until a desirable threshold is reached ("the first positive top comment").

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by airstrike » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

Iv wrote: post #94

Ajedi32 wrote: post #29

They do seem to be trying to reassure people that they're not gonna mess this up: > And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have ta…

The phrase "Embrace, extend, extinguish" comes from Microsoft. [1] There is one actor I don't trust with that, it is them. I'll move my repos next weekend. Maybe that's the call I needed to self host... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

That phrase is from over 20 years ago...