I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they discontinued the product, shocker.
Microsoft acquires Github
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keeping in mind, of course, that Ballmer's Microsoft is very, very different from Nadella's Microsoft...
Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…
MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause.
Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves.
Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!
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#113Open source was / is Microsoft's opposite side - same like Linux is Microsoft's opposite side.
No matter how hard Microsoft will try to be part of open source it never will be.
Btw You can't have your cake and eat it.
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#114People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype?
They killed msn, skype was always a turd. Nokia was dead well before Microsoft got involved.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keeping in mind, of course, that Ballmer's Microsoft is very, very different from Nadella's Microsoft...
Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…
You’ll see the same thing with Google. I’ve found quite a few Google shills on here
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#116Well, I kinda trusted Github to be good actors with the things they centralized while Microsoft is almost the epitome of reasons why centralization is bad and why you want to carefully keep control over your process. Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope.
I trust Microsoft more than GitHub, honestly. GH handled their last round of ethics issues very poorly.
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#117Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars.
I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration"
For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily import all your github projects. https://gitea.io is also available and runs on as little as a raspberry pi.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#118People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Have they not killed Nokia or ruined Skype? I don't think one can say they killed Nokia. Nokia's phone business was basically doomed after Android gained traction, and Microsoft just helped the company to pivot by overpaying for that part of the business, while leaving Nokia with everything that actually was making money.
Nokia engineers wanted to move to Android, but the M̶S̶ ̶M̶o̶l̶e̶ then current CEO made a prikaz to go with Windows Phone.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#119People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Microsoft hasn't changed at all. Here is one recent incident I read: https://twitter.com/jamiebuilds/status/1002696910266773505
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#120It's clear and clever that Microsoft changed your vision about open source to make more money. It's ok as the society that we live are moved this way and its good for us.
The only thing that scares me its the power of those all big companies to buy all other companies. We are tending to have a monopoly and strict visions about computers and all the philosophies involved in it.