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Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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Let's be honest here. If you had as much money as Mcclure, would you waste as much time trying to please people by bending over backwards with perfect grammar, lack of slang, and an apologetic tone? Everyone starts writing to please other people through resumes, cover letters, thank-you cards, and apologies. But once you have enough money like Mcclure, you can say "Fuck you" when you want to and not worry about losin…

Yes, I would. It doesn't take that much more effort. Your argument is that he's too busy for punctuation to be worth his time? What about people who are more wealthy than him who manage to do so? What would you think if Warren Buffett wrote like this? He's acting like the kids in junior high who thought they were being rebellious by shopping at Hot Topic and dressing punk. He's just replaced one style for another. He…

Maybe you would, that's why you're complaining about it.

But my whole point is that there's more people like him that don't feel like writing perfectly. As you just admitted, it takes extra effort to write for your audience instead of writing for yourself. And why would he bother to hire an assistant to edit it? That also takes effort.

Warren Buffet obviously has the choice to behave in the same manner. He also has the choice to be reckless like Larry Ellison and fly jet fighters, or be like the Koch brother's and spend millions on libertarian think-tanks to anger a large democratic populace. Or conversely, why does Buffet choose to anger countless libertarians by saying he and other billionaires should pay a higher tax rate than his secretary? If he was a truly wise businessman, he would refrain from political statements like that.

My point is that wealth makes people more confident in revealing their idiosyncrasies. Whether or not you like their true personality is another story. Amusingly and relatedly I've lost over 20 karma points for telling what people don't want to hear even though I do not support Dave McClure's behavior.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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It's crazy that even with Ron telling Dave to stop embarrassing the tech community with his unprofessional classless writing - he still did it! That in itself is truly classless

I believe this email was written after Dave posted his defense of the meetup.

Yes but he still did it with his tweet...

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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That's pretty linkbaity. Dropping a "nuclear bomb" would be something like, "I have a recording from the Bin 38 meeting that proves you were colluding. The FTC will start examining it at 9am sharp tomorrow morning." Sure, it's unusual for someone to so strongly come out and call people out, especially people that he may want to invest alongside someday, but "nuclear bomb" is a serious stretch.

Right. He's used up his "nuclear bomb" title for the year. What happens when something truly scandalous happens? I suppose he could go up to hydrogen bomb..

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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There's one thing I noticed about Arrington at Disrupt- sure, he's a dick, but he's only a dick to people who a) can take it and b) deserve it. I can't think of a single instance where he has called someone out, and it turned out later he was wrong. For example, some of the panel at Disrupt were being rude (talking amongst themselves during a startup presentation), and he stopped everything and called them out on it.…

This whole episode was quite an impressive feat by Arrington. As one of the many "not-super" angels in the world, it validated something that was only hearsay until Arrington confirmed it -- which has then given Conway a chance to chastise it appropriately. Granted, I still wish he'd revise the inaccuracies in this article ( http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/guy-who-copied-digg-slams-d... ) but I'll take the fact that…

You may want to consider trying to band together and brand yourselves in the vein of Hacker Angels to get more dealflow past AngelList. It'd be great if this kerfluffle shook up the angel "industry" to make it more efficient and more competitive.

(Disclosure: kn0thing is an angel in Blueleaf, the startup I work for.)

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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I believe this email was written after Dave posted his defense of the meetup.

Yes, but Dave's accidental tweet to the whole world came after Ron's email, didn't it? That's what really makes Dave look like a webtard - Ron told Dave not to "cause silicon valley more embarrassment with your unprofessional classless writings", and then Dave sent out a tweet doing exactly that!

That was a mistake, meant to be a direct (private) message to someone on twitter, probably a fellow "super angel".

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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This whole episode was quite an impressive feat by Arrington. As one of the many "not-super" angels in the world, it validated something that was only hearsay until Arrington confirmed it -- which has then given Conway a chance to chastise it appropriately. Granted, I still wish he'd revise the inaccuracies in this article ( http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/guy-who-copied-digg-slams-d... ) but I'll take the fact that…

You may want to consider trying to band together and brand yourselves in the vein of Hacker Angels to get more dealflow past AngelList. It'd be great if this kerfluffle shook up the angel "industry" to make it more efficient and more competitive. (Disclosure: kn0thing is an angel in Blueleaf, the startup I work for.)

Oh, more dealflow is one thing I definitely don't want these days now that I'm @YCombinator :) I've halted considering any new DasKapitalCapital.com investments.

That said, I love the Hacker Angels group. They represent a lot of what's right with angel investing.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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I think of it like this: L.A. = High school for adults New York = College for adults Silicon Valley = Middle school for adults That's not meant as pure criticism, I actually kind of like it, but it just gets annoying at times.

Boston = Grad school for adults. ;-) Also, if Silicon Valley were middle school for adults, there'd be more girls here.

Austin = Smoking behind the bleachers for adults?

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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Seriously, Ron Conway doesn't know how to spell "entrepreneur"?? If that's possible, it's awesome, don't get me wrong, but it seems fishy.

I made a comment to the same effect on this same story, but I've realized that it's actually phonetic given the (mis)pronunciation often heard 'round the Valley. Most people I know say "ahn-treh-preh-noo-er" instead of the more Frenchified "ahn-treh-preh-ner". It's easy to see how one might misspell the former (as RC apparently did).

Nitpick: I wouldn't say the second form has been Frenchified so much as the first form has been Americanized.

Re: Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels

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I have stated consistently for year that I invest because I love helping entrepenuers and watching them learn and succeed. Oh please! We're all capitalists here, nothing to be ashamed of.

Conway didn't say that he's not interested in making lots of money. Sounded to me like he was just pointing out that making money is not his primary motivation for investing. Now, I don't know him at all, so I can't vouch for whether he's being honest or not. However, I'd like to point out that there are plenty of free-market-loving capitalists in this country (present company included) who do the things they do with "making lots of money" quite a ways down on their priority lists. In fact, many of us would be perfectly content with just loving what we do, making enough to pay the bills, support our families, and have a little bit left over to do some fun and meaningful things with.
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