NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf] • Hacker News Board

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by DanBC » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 11:16 AM UTC

stinos wrote: post #63

DonHopkins wrote: post #27

A had a few NCSC security posters that look like they came from the same art department, which I scanned: Uncle Sam pointing: I want to protect the information in YOUR computer. https://i.imgur.com/e0a67w9.jpg Santa shooshing: He does not give away PASSWORDS. SHOULD YOU? https://i.imgur.com/ZZDXBBn.jpg Pirate and Spy: Pirate or Thief? Respect Copyright. It's the law. https://i.imgur.com/Oa8DDeU.jpg And I took screens…

art department Some of these actually look quite great, as far as art goes. I mean compared with what i usually see ob billboards etc these days, there's some nice gems here.

There are books of political posters. I wonder if there are any for US political posters?

The artwork in these books is amazing.

I have this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soviet-Political-Poster-1917-1980/d...

(I was awarded a book token as a merit prize at school. I chose this book. There was fleeting mild consternation on the faces of the teachers and the Conservative politician as they handed me the book in the award ceremony.)

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by twic » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 11:20 AM UTC

hapless wrote: post #41

NamTaf wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest I'm not particularly surprised that there's a religious undercurrent to them. I don't exactly know how to quantify it, but as an outsider that's just sort of how I'd expect US propaganda posters to be. The US has always been particularly outwardly religious, so I guess I sort of expect it to play to those sensibilities when making these.

Today, it's hilariously illegal to put this kind of thing in an official employee communication. No government agency would even dream it. Even in the 1960s, that kind of overtly religious appeal would have been very, VERY controversial. This kind of material _never_ appeared in military stuff, and I am very surprised to see it in NSA publications.

There have been some stories about evangelical christians infiltrating military academies and preying on the students:

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/us/25academies.html

The response illustrates that, as you say, it is clearly against the rules. But it is, nonetheless, happening.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by severine » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 11:23 AM UTC

weber111 wrote: post #30

DonHopkins wrote: post #27

A had a few NCSC security posters that look like they came from the same art department, which I scanned: Uncle Sam pointing: I want to protect the information in YOUR computer. https://i.imgur.com/e0a67w9.jpg Santa shooshing: He does not give away PASSWORDS. SHOULD YOU? https://i.imgur.com/ZZDXBBn.jpg Pirate and Spy: Pirate or Thief? Respect Copyright. It's the law. https://i.imgur.com/Oa8DDeU.jpg And I took screens…

A little off-topic, but clicking imgur "direct" links on mobile redirects you to the standard m.imgur.com URL now? Eww.

Maybe you'd like this web extension, Imagus:

https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/imagus

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bx8fnUCX4W2IN0E1UFN4... (versions for Chrome, Firefox, Maxthon, Opera and Safari)

You just press $key when hovering over an image (edit: or image link) and voilà!

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by TeMPOraL » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:04 PM UTC

marksomnian wrote: post #69

TeMPOraL wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you make money off hot linking? I thought hot linking was the thing users want to be able to do, that's inherently impossible to monetize.

Which is why you directly charge the users for it. cf. Photobucket

Which is what makes people not want to use the service, and switch to whoever allows hotlinking at the moment. That's how imgur came to be.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by enigmango » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:04 PM UTC

argestes wrote: post #67

What does poster on page 25 (No: 20, ID 6614809) mean and who is that guy?

The man in the foreground appears to be George Washington. There's some barely visible text in the space above the cannon ("Pri"; "Lib") but I can't make out the rest (I'd guess something about liberty).

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by veddox » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:09 PM UTC

argestes wrote: post #67

What does poster on page 25 (No: 20, ID 6614809) mean and who is that guy?

I suspect it's meant to portray George Washington at Valley Forge (where he spent a winter with his army during the War of Independence). From Wikipedia:

"Valley Forge long occupied a prominent place in American storytelling and memory. The image of Valley Forge as a site of terrible suffering and unshakeable perseverance emerged years after the encampment ended." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Forge)

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by philipwhiuk » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:36 PM UTC

toomanybeersies wrote: post #55

DonHopkins wrote: post #27

A had a few NCSC security posters that look like they came from the same art department, which I scanned: Uncle Sam pointing: I want to protect the information in YOUR computer. https://i.imgur.com/e0a67w9.jpg Santa shooshing: He does not give away PASSWORDS. SHOULD YOU? https://i.imgur.com/ZZDXBBn.jpg Pirate and Spy: Pirate or Thief? Respect Copyright. It's the law. https://i.imgur.com/Oa8DDeU.jpg And I took screens…

That poster with safe dials on their mouths looks horrifying.

It reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAh4gSsVjo

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by dempseye » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:46 PM UTC

prawn wrote: post #58

hprotagonist wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ivan is an atheist, you see. This way we all know we aren’t soviet. I’m reasonably convinced that explains a fair bit of the “we are very publicly religions”part of the 1950s.

I've always wondered how the political right in the West ended up with such seemingly odd bedfellows as capitalism and religion. e.g., the Jesus of stories seems like a potentially Socialist sort? A friend of mine thought that it was likely that the pairing was a reaction to the communism and atheism of the USSR.

This is a common strand within protestantism, imported from northern Europe into the United States.

It is quite at odds with the catholic view of things and with what Jesus is reported to have said in the bible.

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by philip1209 » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 1:50 PM UTC

> "Don't TALK yourself to death!"

That's macabre - I interpret it as "leak classified information and we will kill you"

Re: NSA posters from the 50s and 60s [pdf]

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Post by enigmango » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 2:02 PM UTC

argestes wrote: post #67

What does poster on page 25 (No: 20, ID 6614809) mean and who is that guy?

More info: After messing around with the image levels, the faded text shows as "Eternal Vigilance is the price of Liberty" (a quote which has been incorrectly attributed to numerous famous figures: https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/eternal-vigilance-...)

(https://i.imgur.com/hkKrb8o.png)