What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

Post by nailer » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 10:09 AM UTC

mpartel wrote: post #135

Wurdan wrote: post #132

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I think it's because Microsoft's reason for doing this is plausible and not as anti-competitive as that comment makes it seem - locking down the boot process has serious security benefits.

I admit I may be ignorant, but could you spell out the security benefits of going from "locked down but user-openable" to "not user-openable"? (edit: specifically benefits that couldn't be effectively addressed by making it a little difficult and scary to open that lockdown?)

Post by raesene9 » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 10:14 AM UTC

mpartel wrote: post #142

raesene9 wrote: post #117

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Those may be norms for IT professionals, but the needs of IT professionals are very different from those of standard users. Realistically most people (numerically) don't want a computer, they want a thing that lets them communicate, create and consume content. Lockdown isn't a problem for them, and walled gardens like iOS are generally the best way for them to stay secure. If you provide a method to escape the sandbo…

That's why I'm entirely OK with making it scary and a little difficult. And it's not just IT professionals, but also their friends and family, especially those that can't afford to or don't want to get a new device that often. I think this is a pretty significant set of people.

Post by nailer » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 10:14 AM UTC

cube2222 wrote: post #136

setquk wrote: post #122

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Grep 150,000 source files on Linux and on WSL and come back to me. That's a pretty standard console load. It kills git operations, package managers, compilers, the lot. ALL the tools I use it for. Well USED it for. Real data: linux -> 1.3 seconds, all from buffer cache on a cranky old 10 year old HP desktop with 8 gig of RAM and bottom end SSD. wsl -> over a minute on a 12 core i7 with high end m2 SSD, every time. Th…

Source code files are small... but hardly a lot though. I've usually been doing extensive search on big files, and ripgrep is great for that (and available for windows).

Post by vortico » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 10:15 AM UTC

grezql wrote: post #143

vortico wrote: post #64

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What's wrong with this? I don't want unauthorized infringing projects jeopardizing the service the rest of us use legally and ethically. Invalid DMCAs are another story, but what's the harm of respecting an IP owner's valid DMCA request?

it will become a sterile, homogenous environment. Its the diversity (like the repos mentioned above) that made github the goto code-sharing site. I, for one, would rather jeaopardize the service to defend the rights of such fringe developers. Together we stand.

Post by BerislavLopac » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 10:17 AM UTC

lorenzobr wrote: post #101

mixedbit wrote: post #70

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How about Atlassian?

Atlassian would have pretty much no reason to buy GitHub, unless it's to shut it down. They have Bitbucket and I think is pretty safe to say that they don't care about people hosting their open source stuff. Of course you can use Bitbucket for free but where the big bucks are for Atlassian is the enterprise market. I don't have market data but I don't think there are many big corps using GitHub as opposite to Bitbuck…