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What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Microsoft used to be bad (M$) but if you haven't noticed you can now run Linux on Windows and sql server runs on Linux. We're in the twilight zone bro; all bets are off.

Running Linux on Windows solely benefits Microsoft and Canonical, not the Linux community. We're not in the twilight zone, we're in the zone where Microsoft realizes it's more profitable to leech off of others' efforts.

Well, it benefits developers who use Windows machines and develop applications for Linux.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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> I’ve deleted my GitHub account, I’ll find a way to replace it and if you’re halfway clever so should you. So clever.

I like it when ppl say I'm halfway clever.

Halfway clever is an aspiration for me.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Some of the shenanigans I've seen recently from MS employees in the .NET Core and JS space doesn't inspire me with confidence... For all of Nadella's "turning over a new leaf", it will still take a generation to change the culture of 120 000 employees

Could you give some details? I’m no longer intimately involved with either technology but from what I can see Microsoft has been doing a lot of good things in .NET Core and with TypeScript. What are the shenanigans you’re referring to?

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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The idea that some companies must be forever tainted by their misdeads in the past seems odd to me. Companies change leadership, direction and style and it seems odd to suggest that there's some underlying quality which means that, regardless of that, you can never trust them (or in reverse that you should always trust a company you once trusted) There seems to be a trope with Microsoft that they're still the same co…

Tainted for the past? Did you see what happened with windows 10 or that they are not able to fix skype? To be honest there are screens popping up every day from one stupid mistake after another from ms. They have more dead products in their portfolio than anyone else they embraced change on the xbox to do a 360 afterwards. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE should put any hope into MS doing the right thing or be a reliable par…

So a company that has a bad product launch or problems should be avoided?

Would you avoid all google products (and indeed most other tech. companies) on that basis as well? they've had their fair share of things gone wrong, products killed etc.

I don't see that as a strong argument against an MS acquisition of GH. Microsoft have had quite a good story in recent times in the developer tools arena (e.g. Code)

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Some of the shenanigans I've seen recently from MS employees in the .NET Core and JS space doesn't inspire me with confidence... For all of Nadella's "turning over a new leaf", it will still take a generation to change the culture of 120 000 employees

> the shenanigans I've seen recently from MS employees in the .NET Core and JS space

Do you have links? I Havent heard MS doing anything malicious recently in these spaces.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like it when ppl say I'm halfway clever.

He's implying he is at least 2x smart than we are.

I think he is just warning people he thinks should be warned of something that matters deeply to him.

I suspect he assumes that anyone reading his blog / HN is already All-the-way clever and one can read it as "everyone should delete their account"

Personally i am more sanguine

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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The idea that some companies must be forever tainted by their misdeads in the past seems odd to me. Companies change leadership, direction and style and it seems odd to suggest that there's some underlying quality which means that, regardless of that, you can never trust them (or in reverse that you should always trust a company you once trusted) There seems to be a trope with Microsoft that they're still the same co…

Anyone with any morals would never want to be associated with the Microsoft name, so anyone who does is untrustworthy by default.

And besides, the current CEO was the one who went from Scroogled to mandatory telemetry, while focusing on renting out servers at a ridiculous markups. Don't forget the new focus on the Windows Store either. Or the locked-down ARM laptops.

So it's not like the current management is innocent either.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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The idea that some companies must be forever tainted by their misdeads in the past seems odd to me. Companies change leadership, direction and style and it seems odd to suggest that there's some underlying quality which means that, regardless of that, you can never trust them (or in reverse that you should always trust a company you once trusted) There seems to be a trope with Microsoft that they're still the same co…

Windows 10 is really recent though. That said, since I like controversy: I'm happier to see Microsoft buy Github than I would be to see Google or Facebook buy it. And also! A big shoutout to Linus for helping to make source control distributed and open, which means swapping between git providers (for the code at least) is simple, easy and impossible to block. The amount of good Linus has done for the world is incredi…

I think MS made mis-steps on the Windows 10 privacy setup for sure, although they've largely fixed it in later releases with improved visibility of Privacy options and better docs on how to disable most of the telemetry stuff.

Personally I like Windows 10 as a general purpose client OS, WSL is great and stability for me across a number of devices has been very good.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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The idea that some companies must be forever tainted by their misdeads in the past seems odd to me. Companies change leadership, direction and style and it seems odd to suggest that there's some underlying quality which means that, regardless of that, you can never trust them (or in reverse that you should always trust a company you once trusted) There seems to be a trope with Microsoft that they're still the same co…

Windows 10 is really recent though. That said, since I like controversy: I'm happier to see Microsoft buy Github than I would be to see Google or Facebook buy it. And also! A big shoutout to Linus for helping to make source control distributed and open, which means swapping between git providers (for the code at least) is simple, easy and impossible to block. The amount of good Linus has done for the world is incredi…

Realistically, out of all of the BigCorps who could have bought it (and who have deep enough pockets to sustain its bleeding,) Microsoft is one of the best of a bad bunch.

I'm not quite as cynical as the author of the OP when it comes to Microsoft's recent apparent change of direction, but who knows, that may just be naivety speaking.

Re: What is wrong with Microsoft buying GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 is really recent though. That said, since I like controversy: I'm happier to see Microsoft buy Github than I would be to see Google or Facebook buy it. And also! A big shoutout to Linus for helping to make source control distributed and open, which means swapping between git providers (for the code at least) is simple, easy and impossible to block. The amount of good Linus has done for the world is incredi…

Another recent example: lockdown of ARM-based Windows machines, preventing the installation of other operating systems.

You mean like Android or iOS?
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