Can't wait the apology commercial.
I find the Wells Fargo commercials absurdly self-serving. I can only imagine what the makers of “Chairs”[0] would conjure up.
Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users and Friends
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't believe there is much synergies between FB and Instead anyway, and even less so with WhatsApp which seemed to be have been bought out strictly to stop it from growing into its own social network. But I don't see the US ever breaking up FB in the coming decade, as the agenda is clearly not to fight monopolies and trusts.
Any breakup, if it were to happen, would be likely to be triggered mainly by the EU, IMO. For all the complexities that EU regulations sometimes bring in, I see the EU as the only hope in such cases.
When has the EU ever break up a world class monopoly ?
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
China just executes the CEO. Mindless ambition. Mindless consequences.
I hope you're not trying to say that's a better solution.
It probably is, given the type of characters proped up by the attention economy.
China hasn't produced a Trump yet. Meanwhile the US has laid the foundation with the attention economy (that props up people with the largest view/retweet/like count) to produce an entire crop of Trump type "leaders" in every sphere of life from the corporate world, to the army, to academia, to the media etc etc. The ground has been prepared and the seeds have been planted.
Look around. What is going to prevent their rise? Regulators? Zuckerberg?
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#54I for one do not expect Facebook to change much unless there's a big shakeup from the top, including removing Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg and others. What they have shown repeatedly is contempt for their users in the guise of apologies and remediations that go nowhere. Since such a shakeup is unlikely to happen, the other thing that could happen is a breaking up of the company, which I'm guessing (this is not a…
At least try to understand what is going on before regurgitating all your confirmation biases against Facebook. These device APIs were a necessity before iOS and Android came along. How do you think you got FB experience on Blackberry before they had an app store?
Pretty sad piece by NYTimes who are just trying to get views and probably have an agenda against FB (given how much FB is ravaging their business model).
This is FB's response: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/why-we-disagree-with-th...
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#55Response from FB: "Why We Disagree with the NYT" https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/why-we-disagree-with-th...
"We are not aware of any abuse by these companies." - seems to be carefully worded. They do not make claims that there are no abuses, nor do they elaborate what checks/audits they have in place to detect abuse.
Yeah - try reading between the lines since FB's response is not in line with your confirmation bias against them.
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#56Now read this and do make sure you type the takeaways like you did for the NYTimes article above: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/why-we-disagree-with-th...
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#57Most notable pieces I took from the article: 1) Facebook does not see third parties (such as BlackBerry) as “third parties.” 2) Facebook told Congress that it disabled third party access to user data, but in actuality did not. My own strong interjection: Facebook’s competitive advantage is its disregard for ethics. Somehow, Zuckerberg has been able to convince a lot of smart people to do unethical things and build un…
> This disregard for ethics has allowed Facebook to “grow at all costs."
There's a great phrase for this: "move fast and break things". When you believe it is ok to break small rules and norms, it becomes easier to break larger norms and ethics and rules. This philosophy took SV by storm, but at its core it's always been about disregarding things like laws and ethics, and now we are seeing the world that created.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
"We are not aware of any abuse by these companies." - seems to be carefully worded. They do not make claims that there are no abuses, nor do they elaborate what checks/audits they have in place to detect abuse.
Yeah - try reading between the lines since FB's response is not in line with your confirmation bias against them.
I was trying to read the article critically, but am open to alternate parsings / viewpoints on the article. Would love to hear your thoughts on the subject matter of the article.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any breakup, if it were to happen, would be likely to be triggered mainly by the EU, IMO. For all the complexities that EU regulations sometimes bring in, I see the EU as the only hope in such cases.
When has the EU ever break up a world class monopoly ?
When has the EU ever produced a world class monopoly?
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#60What is this describing? First-party apps with Facebook integration and/or OS features connecting to Facebook? The leakage of Facebook information onto MS/Apple/Blackberry servers would be concerning, but having Microsoft software connect to Facebook on a user's device sounds harmless (to the extent we trust MS/Apple/Blackberry software to not leak information so accessed). Right now I'm giving Apple similar access t…
Yes, I didn't quite understand that. Apple had this to say: > An Apple spokesman said the company relied on private access to Facebook data for features that enabled users to post photos to the social network without opening the Facebook app, among other things. So is this like what connecting your Facebook account in Settings does? Allow you share pictures through the share sheet in Photos or whatever? What does App…
>is this like what connecting your Facebook account in Settings does?
It depends on the platform.
On iOS you could post various types of information to Facebook, and you could sync Facebook contact and calendar data to the local device.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/understanding-facebook-integrati...
Aside from letting you share information and sync Facebook contacts and calendars, Windows Phone 7, for instance, pulled in a lot more data to populate it's People hub.
>For all intents and purposes the People hub is the Facebook app for Windows Phone 7. If you’ve supplied your Facebook login, the default “what’s new” tab will serve as your news feed.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/3982/windows-phone-7-review/7