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Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users and Friends

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This paints Facebook’s recent marketing campaign in a new light. Here I was thinking we were dealing with a company finally that decided to get their act together and turn themselves around, when in reality it was actually just Facebook trying to whitewash their reputation ahead of all the horrible abuses they knew were about to be exposed.

Until the top execs are removed, don't believe there's a sincere desire to change at Facebook

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Response from FB: "Why We Disagree with the NYT" https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/why-we-disagree-with-th...

Agree with FB on this one. The privacy issue with 3rd party developers was that friend data was sent to the 3rd party developer databases. Here, the data just stays on the device.

The way the article is titled can make it look like the device makers actually got to make their own database of Facebook users.

Edit: I read it again, the article does say "Facebook acknowledged that some partners did store users’ data — including friends’ data — on their own servers," but they don't follow up on that at all, they go back to messing with a BlackBerry. That's the big question.

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Response from FB: "Why We Disagree with the NYT" https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/06/why-we-disagree-with-th...

"We are not aware of any abuse by these companies." - seems to be carefully worded. They do not make claims that there are no abuses, nor do they elaborate what checks/audits they have in place to detect abuse.

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Here we go again... it feel like there's no way to break out of this cycle where companies routinely go unpunished for bad behavior. Facebook, Equifax, Wells Fargo...

Hopefully some GDPR stick will help fix this

GDPR, the tool to prevent the disruption of Facebook from ever being economically viable! Yay. Let’s celebrate.

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I for one do not expect Facebook to change much unless there's a big shakeup from the top, including removing Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg and others. What they have shown repeatedly is contempt for their users in the guise of apologies and remediations that go nowhere. Since such a shakeup is unlikely to happen, the other thing that could happen is a breaking up of the company, which I'm guessing (this is not a…

Change means less revenue, IMO. Their business model is to keep squeezing every bit of data and seize every opportunity for the next quarter. So, that type of change will happen only if forced.

I've said it before: FB should not have been allowed to buy them in the first place.

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Most notable pieces I took from the article: 1) Facebook does not see third parties (such as BlackBerry) as “third parties.” 2) Facebook told Congress that it disabled third party access to user data, but in actuality did not.

My own strong interjection: Facebook’s competitive advantage is its disregard for ethics. Somehow, Zuckerberg has been able to convince a lot of smart people to do unethical things and build unethical technology, while the competitors have a harder time doing the same. This disregard for ethics has allowed Facebook to “grow at all costs.” Meanwhile, the more conscientious programmers and entrepreneurs (or at least those held more accountable) are busy wrangling with the real challenges and intricacies of civilization. (I personally prefer it that way - I like my work being tied to the well-being of society.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully some GDPR stick will help fix this

GDPR, the tool to prevent the disruption of Facebook from ever being economically viable! Yay. Let’s celebrate.

The assumption there being that Facebook continues to be economically viable...

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Most notable pieces I took from the article: 1) Facebook does not see third parties (such as BlackBerry) as “third parties.” 2) Facebook told Congress that it disabled third party access to user data, but in actuality did not. My own strong interjection: Facebook’s competitive advantage is its disregard for ethics. Somehow, Zuckerberg has been able to convince a lot of smart people to do unethical things and build un…

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Re: Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users and Friends

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"The company continued to build new private APIs for device makers through 2014"

"Michael LaForgia, a New York Times reporter, used the Hub app on a BlackBerry Z10 to log into Facebook." -- this is a phone announced in 2013.

I understand the concern with Facebook, but this article is presenting information from 4 years ago as if it's news.

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