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Facebook Gave Device Makers Deep Access to Data on Users and Friends

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Here we go again... it feel like there's no way to break out of this cycle where companies routinely go unpunished for bad behavior. Facebook, Equifax, Wells Fargo...

China just executes the CEO. Mindless ambition. Mindless consequences.

I hope you're not trying to say that's a better solution.

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What is this describing? First-party apps with Facebook integration and/or OS features connecting to Facebook? The leakage of Facebook information onto MS/Apple/Blackberry servers would be concerning, but having Microsoft software connect to Facebook on a user's device sounds harmless (to the extent we trust MS/Apple/Blackberry software to not leak information so accessed). Right now I'm giving Apple similar access t…

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I for one do not expect Facebook to change much unless there's a big shakeup from the top, including removing Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg and others. What they have shown repeatedly is contempt for their users in the guise of apologies and remediations that go nowhere. Since such a shakeup is unlikely to happen, the other thing that could happen is a breaking up of the company, which I'm guessing (this is not a prediction) will happen in a couple of years. To start with, Instagram and WhatsApp would have to get unwound from this mess by becoming individual and unrelated services.

I don't have a lot of hope on social media platforms respecting user privacy and avoid massive data collection and/or sharing. Privacy in today's world is for the privileged people, in various ways.

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Why this is shocking, or even news? When you create and use a Facebook account (or when a shadow profile is created for you), Facebook has (and has always had ) the right to share anything and everything you publish on their platform with anyone they have a legal responsibility to (e.g., law enforcement) or commercial agreement with (e.g., advertisers). All Facebook content is essentially public and should be treated…

Dunno why this is getting downvotes--you are absolutely right. You echo my thoughts after reading this. Folks, why is this a surprise at all? Don't post stuff on Facebook you don't want public.

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What is this describing? First-party apps with Facebook integration and/or OS features connecting to Facebook? The leakage of Facebook information onto MS/Apple/Blackberry servers would be concerning, but having Microsoft software connect to Facebook on a user's device sounds harmless (to the extent we trust MS/Apple/Blackberry software to not leak information so accessed). Right now I'm giving Apple similar access t…

>What is this describing?

The "build new private APIs for device makers through 2014, spreading user data through tens of millions of mobile devices... and other systems outside Facebook’s direct control" makes it sound like they were making deals with the manufacturers where the device would auth and fetch data through the manufacturer's infrastructure when accessing Facebook? The Blackberry Hub app is used as an example in the infographic.

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Why this is shocking, or even news? When you create and use a Facebook account (or when a shadow profile is created for you), Facebook has (and has always had ) the right to share anything and everything you publish on their platform with anyone they have a legal responsibility to (e.g., law enforcement) or commercial agreement with (e.g., advertisers). All Facebook content is essentially public and should be treated…

We (society) made the rules, and we can change them. We have the power to make laws dictating how Facebook can use the data, regardless of what the contract says, regardless of their current "obligations", and regardless of how "public" this data might be. We made new laws about medical data -- we can make news laws about social data. That's what these stories are about -- things we can think about when drafting this…

Why does the law need to change for this? Facebook should disclose what they do with your data, and that is about it. At that point, it is really up to you to decide if you want to play ball...

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>The company continued to build new private APIs for device makers through 2014, spreading user data through tens of millions of mobile devices, game consoles, televisions and other systems outside Facebook’s direct control. So Facebook says "we don't sell data," but they are giving manufacturers access to data in exchange for being integrated/pre-installed on the device. How is that not "selling" data? Just because…

They chose their words carefully.

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I for one do not expect Facebook to change much unless there's a big shakeup from the top, including removing Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg and others. What they have shown repeatedly is contempt for their users in the guise of apologies and remediations that go nowhere. Since such a shakeup is unlikely to happen, the other thing that could happen is a breaking up of the company, which I'm guessing (this is not a…

Facebook will not be the same without the masterminds (Mark Zuckerberg, Sheryl Sandberg and others). Practically, the business there is all about finding monetary value of the user data.

Whether very few of us like that or not, we keep going back to using Facebook anyway, how (long) can we avoid the platform where our family and friends (and billions of other mindless users) are?

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