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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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I can't believe Microsoft isn't aware an exodus (at some level) will occur and Github will no longer be what it is if they buy it.

But apparently they don't care. Demonstrating they have not changed as so many claim but are still the same old M$.

I'll be closing my account as soon as this is official. As for clients who decide to stay, sorry, I won't be able to help them as I won't have a Github account. But I will walk them through moving if they like.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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what did they do with LinkedIn?? I havent noticed any change. as for Skype, its completely ruined. I have it installed but I am scared to open it. Horrible GUI. Constant updates and generally just useless now.

I've heard claims that Skype is no longer peer to peer but runs on msft networks/infrastructure and performance has suffered. Can anyone confirm or shed any more light on that?

Not sure about the performance aspect, but your mention of them changing architecture to send all data through their own servers is well known.

It went from seemed like a ~reasonable security architecture, to outright enabling the monitoring and forwarding of all user conversations. Ugh.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Decentralization is a wonderful idea. It brings with it benefits that are technical, architectural, and social. Yet is also carries with it its own set of costs and risks. Bluntly, I doubt this will shock the world of software development into being less centralized. The practical benefits of centralization are, apparently, too large to be readily overcome.

(shameless plug) I recently built a tool (SIT, https://sit.fyi ) that has decentralizes issue tracking and similar workflows, giving full days ownership and independence of storage and transport. Can be (and actively being) used with Git, or other SCMs.

All I'm getting is a blank page, it seems to be 404ing on https://sit.fyi/bower_components/webcomponentsjs/webcomponen...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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This "synergy" seems to be pretty one-sided. Which of these synergies is useful for existing GitHub users? That's kind of the problem with this acquisition, which is why few Github users are excited for it. It also doesn't feel like Microsoft understands developers or even end users consistently. VSCode is a nice editor, but not the only one. The MSDN docs and site is awful. Azure is okay, but Windows 10 is somehow m…

GitHub subscriptions included in msdn?

Probably only avaolable though MSDN , I would guess. When MSDN is extemded to cover Linux as well (not so far fetched with the Linux support in Windows and Visual Studio) this move would also make sense in a weird Microsoft kind of way.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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I spent eight years building software on .NET, so I have a lot of time for Microsoft, but I fully understand why a lot of people aren't happy with this news. It's been good to have a leader in open-source that is unaffiliated with anyone but the tech they chose to use (Ruby/Rails). For me, it doesn't matter who takes it over - it's just sad to see a neutral player disappear. With all that said, things have changed a…

I completely agree with your comment. As much as I love Microsoft, this is a weird development. It’s like if Google bought Mozilla and Firefox became just another Google browser.

What isn't commonly known is that GitHub was never profitable and was getting closer and closer to insolvency every day.

Microsoft rescued them.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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That's not paranoia. That is completely reasonable considering Microsoft's history.

Microsoft have a history of corporate espionage against their customers?

Just for example, among the EU's criticisms of Microsoft were some of the documented (as in civil judgments in the hundreds of millions of dollars documented) abuses of some of its notable customers like IBM and Intel.[0]

"Oh, but that was way back in the 80s and 90s, and different people run the company now. They're more mature and responsible these days." This is the only argument I've been offered when pointing out Microsoft's very shady history. It doesn't suffice.

[0] http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepape...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Tangentially related, but maybe microsoft could actually do that : why is github's search so terribly bad ? If they had developed a good powerful code search (custom semantic engine for most used languages, complex queries, exact/fuzzy matches for syntax, use of history, etc) they could have become the primary way you interact with code you don't know yet. As it stands now it's simply more efficient to clone and use…

Yes they could, since they already have reasonable code search for VSTS [1].

[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vsts/project/search/code-se...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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I think that the biggest loser is going to be IBM clearcase. Especially in government/defense work the developers want to use git, but can’t get it because of lack of security reviews. I can guarantee you that Microsoft sales people are already calling every software group manager at all the defense contractors.

Can you elaborate on this? Why does using git preclude security reviews?

Clearcase is a much more advanced tool than git. It is designed to do radically different things from the mere patch relationship management that git performs in its ultra glorified ways.
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