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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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I am worried that a company as important to the open-source community as github is now owned by one of the major players. I think it really impacts the neutrality of github. If I would compete with microsoft in a certain space, I would really think twice about relying on github. Also, this monopolization is driving me mad.

> monopolization

Conglomeration, unless you hated github before which I wouldn't object too.

I agree with you anyway.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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And just like they acquired Skype to please the NSA and make changes for its sake, I wonder if this is also a move to backdoor Github projects without the project owners and contributors noticing. I, for one, would definitely stay away from any open source project that's still hosted on a Microsoft-owned GitHub.

It's tricky to backdoor git repositories, since it's a Merkle tree of hashes and as such immutable. Any attempts at tampering would break git push/pull for developers, and as such be immediately detected. Binaries could be backdoored, potentially, but with the trend towards deterministic reproducible builds I don't see this happening.

You place a surprising amount of trust in a hash algorithm with known collisions (SHA1).

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

#423

This is sad news. Partially because I don't care for Microsoft, but mostly because Github was a neutral third-party without any priorities. I hope they don't discontinue Atom or apply their UX styling to the site/desktop app. Like Spotify, I felt safer that a company was just doing hosting in their domain (of music or code projects) and wouldn't try to shovel some other tech into it like Apple making Apple Music terr…

We'll eventually see what happened to Skype happen to GitHub. Not sure how it will manifest itself, but the bloat will find its way in somehow.

Were it a consumer product I'd agree. But this is a developer tool and MS have been doing fairly well in that regard the last few years with azure and vscode.

Not happy as others have stated of pretty much the largest neutral party in development being absorbed.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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the history of Microsoft is the reason why we all reacting this way. But encouraged by the move they made lately coming into Linux, even though other players have forced their hand

I would be as worried if it was AWS or Google. Github should remain a neutral ground in my opinion.

> I would be as worried if it was AWS or Google.

Good. Need more people like you.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Their search is really frustrating, I agree. I feel like they only index a small percentage of files, so results are always bad.

They don’t index forks. Cloning a fork just to search through it locally is always fun. Very annoying when a fork becomes the de facto project because it’s the one being maintained.

I’m not even talking forks. I’m talking largish projects hosted on GitHub (100k+ loc). The actual results will contain less than half the results you’d see with grep, and even then the indexed content may even be out of date. This is exacerbated even more when database migrations are kept in source control, with older migrations archived, and the only search results you get for eg a stored proc search will be a version of the sp from 6 months ago.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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And... what has Microsoft done to you lately? Gates is playing international philanthropist; Ballmer is playing NBA owner. The new regime not only likes open source and contribute massively to open source projects, they joined the Linux Foundation at the _Platinum_ level... there are a lot of "good open source companies" with deep pockets who haven't done that. Like Google. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-relea…

>And... what has Microsoft done to you lately? Skype.

That acquisition was almost 7 years ago under the old leadership.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

#427

Speaking of fickle developers, I'm already planning my exit. Any mention of Microsoft is enough to turn me off, I have seen enough - I have had enough.

And... what has Microsoft done to you lately? Gates is playing international philanthropist; Ballmer is playing NBA owner. The new regime not only likes open source and contribute massively to open source projects, they joined the Linux Foundation at the _Platinum_ level... there are a lot of "good open source companies" with deep pockets who haven't done that. Like Google. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-relea…

In bed with the NSA, telemetry, forced W10 migration, just off the top of my head.

That said, I do appreciate their recent strategy decisions. Lets hope at some point the two hemispheres of MS converge.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Only way to disrupt monopoly is to use something else. I am going to migrate all my projects from GitHub. Be an example you want the world to be.

I'd recommend running your own FossilSCM server. It supports full code repo, wiki, bugtracking, and more. And it's free software to boot. I'm looking to see if it's feasible to write a github->fossil layer to make it easy for programmers to dump to local. Right now, Git is easy to dump... but those issues and wiki support isnt dumpable yet..

if you mean dump from GH the wiki is a separate git repo. just clone .wiki.git instead of .git

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

#429

Speaking of fickle developers, I'm already planning my exit. Any mention of Microsoft is enough to turn me off, I have seen enough - I have had enough.

And... what has Microsoft done to you lately? Gates is playing international philanthropist; Ballmer is playing NBA owner. The new regime not only likes open source and contribute massively to open source projects, they joined the Linux Foundation at the _Platinum_ level... there are a lot of "good open source companies" with deep pockets who haven't done that. Like Google. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-relea…

Check the recent history of computing. They willingly botched many good standardization efforts and devalued many by throwing their industry weight around - all in the name of self-interest.

And oh, their software sucks. Sometimes it's kinda bizarre even how much their software sucks, bad engineering abound.

Have you tried updating Windows 7 recently?

They took over the world of computers and made people believe that computers suck and are boring, which they do when they run Windows.

They brainwashed so many corporations and governments to use their stupid solutions for every problem and plague tech people with incredible headache in the process.

It's even worse in the "developing" world, where every single comapny is like: "Oracle! Microsoft! Oracle! Microsoft!". You will never know till you experience it.

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