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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atom and VS Code are both built on Electron. No need to kill Atom as it and VS Code are built for different purposes.

What different purposes? They're both text editors / lightweight IDEs focusing on plugin extensibility built on top of Electron. They're literally the same thing.

And there are many who would say a sedan and a crossover are basically the same thing, but the devil is in the details.

Atom is extensible to a fault. A plugin can do just about everything and anything. FFS tabs are actually a plugin! While that means that performance will suffer, many (myself included) use Atom because of that insane freedom that plugins have to do what they need to do.

VSCode on the other hand is much more "if you want to do X, use this API". It's much more controlled, much more opinionated about how things "should" be done using VSCode as a platform.

From 30,000 ft, they are the same. But their goals and details differ, and I always prefer more choice rather than less.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Funnily enough a friend of mine and I migrated some of our projects over to GitLab right before this original story broke. It’s really unfortunate though that this will probably go through since GitHub was/is really the staple site for social programming and project management, something that GitLab is certainly lacking.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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post #182

GitHub was never conceived as a charity. But this didn't stop people to put half of the world's open source code centrally on this one platform. Now they are crying/worried because this platform is being sold. Can't really understand your point, guys. That is the way it often goes with commercial enterprises. It's quite an irony that free/open source makes this platform so financially interesting to buy.

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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Can anything exist anymore without

A) Getting acquired by a multinational

B) Becoming one

Sure, MS visual code is open but as a few players get more and more power we all become subject to their whims and not them to ours.

MS is pushing their ads within their own OS more and more, will GitHub get the same treatment, or will it’s data be useful to MS for those ads?

What sort of integrations can we expect to see with other MS products that encourage a more closed ecosystem?

This may all seem alarmist but with so many companies having so much power this sort of behavior get through unchecked.

The only recourse people suggest is “well then don’t use it” but what options do employees have when higher ups mandate technologies? What about most users who just go with the wind and just let these snowballing large companies skate by? It all makes me very sad...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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post #43

Oh god, I hope not. Anytime a big company acquires almost anything, the quality level drops off a cliff. Microsoft with Skype is the obvious example, but so is anything bought by Google (like YouTube). Add to this the bad experience we had with Sourceforge, and I definitely worry it could be all over for GitHub if this is true.

I was going to quote YouTube as the one counterexample to your otherwise valid rule. What's wrong with YouTube? (other than being part of the Google Surveillance State GoStaPo)

You didn't use Youtube before it was acquired? I vividly remember finding a lot of cool videos and music that I couldn't otherwise have found. Now once you watch a few garbage videos it's all Youtube autosuggests to you. Also if you start exploring videos they'll probably be mostly around the same what you've already seen and not diverge too much from what's popular. Anything novel and out-of-ordinary is pushed to the bottom in most cases.

It's hard to pinpoint what exactly is different but the freshness of it is gone. I don't expect anymore to find anything super-interesting and the same old stuff that I've already watched is being suggested to me again and again.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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What a betrayal. I'm starting to get really sick of this whole economic paradigm in general. A few lucky smart people who were in the right place at the right time become fabulously wealthy beyond the dreams of the greatest kings who ever lived in history, off the work and contributions of millions of users creating all of the content for free, with absolutely no say in anything. Is this really the best way to do thi…

Sure. It motivates millions of young developers to try to become kings.

> Sure. It motivates millions of young developers to try to become kings.

... so VCs can profit.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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post #28

Why I'll never trust Microsoft ever again. "postmaster@nsa.gov" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

For the avoidance of doubt, the postmaster@nsa.gov address has nothing do to with _NSAKEY.

Somebody used this address in a joke, and then a Wikipedia editor took it seriously and put it in the article. sigh

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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I am worried that a company as important to the open-source community as github is now owned by one of the major players. I think it really impacts the neutrality of github. If I would compete with microsoft in a certain space, I would really think twice about relying on github. Also, this monopolization is driving me mad.

the history of Microsoft is the reason why we all reacting this way. But encouraged by the move they made lately coming into Linux, even though other players have forced their hand

Yes, particularly because of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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What a betrayal. I'm starting to get really sick of this whole economic paradigm in general. A few lucky smart people who were in the right place at the right time become fabulously wealthy beyond the dreams of the greatest kings who ever lived in history, off the work and contributions of millions of users creating all of the content for free, with absolutely no say in anything. Is this really the best way to do thi…

Do you mean that Github shareholders will benefit from users that are hosting their projects on Github? Isn't "content is king" true for all platforms?
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