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Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Their SSL site still continues to simply not work: www.facebook.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: a248.e.akamai.net , *.akamaihd.net This is the biggest problem with the SSL PKI. It is partially responsible for the lackluster deployment of SSL. We need to switch to a TOFU model supplemented by a more nimble version of the current PKI for first connect acc…

Excellent points, but please be sure to simply never split infinitives. ;)

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#84
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It's hard to overstate the damage this is causing for merchants that prominently display FB like on their pages - lots of big ugly blank spaces / errors out there. Realize this is temporary but shows why if you install any external vendor tool as a part of your site make contingency plans that switch on errors.

Or people who rely on Facebook for shared login...that must be down as well.

Seeing as Facebook login lets you easily collect email addresses these days you could always have a page that says, facebook is down click here to get an email confirmation link to login or something similar.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#85
DNS issues are the cause for so many outages by a myriad of prestigious web shops. It's incredible how often overlooked something so pivotal to your infrastructure goes without being properly monitored. I have seen entire businesses suffer hours of downtime because their monitoring systems would query an authoritative name server from RFC1918 IP space - but not the same from an externally visible address. An NS not responding to local queries can be just as detrimental internally as they are externally because of how web services are architected, obviously. In their defense, Facebook rarely incurs outages of this capacity, and I can bet it won't happen again and someone is getting seriously reamed. They can and will happen to the best of them, no matter how many MIT PhDs you have designing your systems.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came here to post this same thing, but I just started thinking about it. When was the last time FB went down like this and took a bunch of core functionality down with it? Has it ever happened? And how long are they down...30 mins? Is that 30 mins of downtime every few years really more damaging than that the (potential) value that integration with the graph API or FB Connect can bring? Yes, you look like an idiot…

You're right, I should have phrased it "And that, my friends, is one of the many reasons its risky to build your entire business on top of FB Graph API." Just went through a nightmare building a product entirely on top of fb graph. FB fails, a lot. And not just in terms of downtime, in terms of inconsistently implemented technology, poor documentation, lack of transparency, inconsistent policies etc. Not saying don't…

Oh, don't get me wrong. I won't do FB apps for clients anymore, despite the high demand and great pay. It's just way too stressful to have the clients always angry at me because of the platform's shortcomings.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, I should have phrased it "And that, my friends, is one of the many reasons its risky to build your entire business on top of FB Graph API." Just went through a nightmare building a product entirely on top of fb graph. FB fails, a lot. And not just in terms of downtime, in terms of inconsistently implemented technology, poor documentation, lack of transparency, inconsistent policies etc. Not saying don't…

Oh, don't get me wrong. I won't do FB apps for clients anymore, despite the high demand and great pay. It's just way too stressful to have the clients always angry at me because of the platform's shortcomings.

Amen! I tell ya, I have had so much stress over the last few months as the direct result of this. Well put.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#89

And that, my friends, is why its risky to build your business on top of FB Graph API. In terms of reliability, FB is not twitter, but it certainly isn't google either...

I came here to post this same thing, but I just started thinking about it. When was the last time FB went down like this and took a bunch of core functionality down with it? Has it ever happened? And how long are they down...30 mins? Is that 30 mins of downtime every few years really more damaging than that the (potential) value that integration with the graph API or FB Connect can bring? Yes, you look like an idiot…

If you have 100x as many users, you will look like an idiot to 100x as many users too.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#90

Their SSL site still continues to simply not work: www.facebook.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: a248.e.akamai.net , *.akamaihd.net This is the biggest problem with the SSL PKI. It is partially responsible for the lackluster deployment of SSL. We need to switch to a TOFU model supplemented by a more nimble version of the current PKI for first connect acc…

Excellent points, but please be sure to simply never split infinitives. ;)

I shall continue to boldly split all the infinitives I please. We speak English, despite the best efforts of medieval Latin grammarians.
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