You can't ban somebody for their opinion
Are you joking? HN places great importance on preserving the tone of the community. If my opinion is that all the politicians are reptilians working to establish One World Government; and I comment on every post to that effect, and submit a new post every five minutes linking on my One World Government-watch blog; then I should be banned. That opinion is damaging to the community, and should not be allowed.
I am not who you think I am
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you clarify your question? Is it directed to my post? I am unaware of anything in my own post that could be considered offensive but if it seems otherwise I would appreciate knowing in what way it seems so.
I don't think you need to pull Patricks religion in to this at all, that was just about the one thing missing in the original post.
When I read that in the article I did cringe and thought it was a stretch and detracted from the article. I am not saying the article is the best possible article or was free from cringe inducing statements. But I also don't see it as something someone should be banned for, not even remotely close. It sounded more like the guy writing it was Catholic himself, overcame Catholic guilt (which is a topic people do discuss), and was speculating through projection that Patrick is Irish and suffers from it. It seemed like a huge long shot though. Myself I think it's more likely Patrick is like me and is perfectly aware he can make more money working for some corporation in some contexts, but chooses to do his own thing instead even though his current income is possibly less than he made working for the man. And that's me projecting as well. Someone who seeks to be able to live on the beach on Thailand might write an article saying that Patrick must be running his business with the goal of moving to Thailand. Someone bent on taking over the world, creating one world government and declaring himself emperor of the galaxy might write an article saying that Patrick is planning to build a fleet of spaceships. OK, that last one is silly, forget that example.
Patrick also has only been a year from quitting his job, so it's not a weird thing to be making less than a hundred million a year or whatever people are unreasonably assuming he should be making. What he is making is pretty darn awesome for a one man shop that's only been around a few years.
Personally I think that whatever he is making in total and his reasons for being satisfied and fulfilled doing so are his own business and I don't give his personal lifestyle choices any thought myself. But even it being his own personal choice, someone writing about that, and in essence projecting their own issues onto this one like the original article did, is not something offensive or mean spirited. The first half of the article was practically a love letter to Patrick and quite flattering. The rest seems to be both giving advice, and the author working out his own personal shock that someone he saw as a mentor leading him to great wealth and fame was earning only a modest income. That doesn't mean though that Patrick's advice is bad, Patrick's articles are great and filled with useful information.
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#53Don't understand this. The guy's telling the Bingo Card Creator guy he should be making more money. Which is absolutely true because he has the skillset to make millions a year. How is this bad in any way - it's not. It's not psychoanalysis. It's just a guy saying - Dude, You should be making a lot more money with your skillset. Option 1:Let your ego get in the way and stay at under $60K a year. Option 2: Learn from…
Some of us are women. But I don't see why that requires we be polite.
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#54Patrick is a famous guy around here and I'm sure everybody who's read his stuff has thoughts about his character, intelligence, lifestyle, etc. Sebastian just expressed those thoughts, and I'd rather be in a community where the free expression of thoughts and ideas is valued higher than not offending people.
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#55How very strange. The article about Patrick is very positive and merely suggests that he has the potential to make a lot more than he does now, and gives him some tips to that regard. Since Patrick lives his business life in the open of the internet, then it's not unreasonable to publicly post such an article, using only public sources as reference. There's a couple comments maybe he is afraid of success, maybe he su…
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#56You can't ban somebody for their opinion
Are you joking? HN places great importance on preserving the tone of the community. If my opinion is that all the politicians are reptilians working to establish One World Government; and I comment on every post to that effect, and submit a new post every five minutes linking on my One World Government-watch blog; then I should be banned. That opinion is damaging to the community, and should not be allowed.
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#57Don't understand this. The guy's telling the Bingo Card Creator guy he should be making more money. Which is absolutely true because he has the skillset to make millions a year. How is this bad in any way - it's not. It's not psychoanalysis. It's just a guy saying - Dude, You should be making a lot more money with your skillset. Option 1:Let your ego get in the way and stay at under $60K a year. Option 2: Learn from…
Where you go off the track is using "should" rather than "could". Where the original went off track was in calling it a "tragedy".
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#58HN needs its own drama tv show. This is getting ridiculous.
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#59Easily the most controversial thing I've ever written, but I'll stand up and be accounted for in my errors. I write once daily, every day, and I write honestly. Here, the mistake I made was not filtering my thought by another person who could feel ill because of it. I will explain my line of thinking, which does not excuse the large gaffe I made, but perhaps so people can understand my thinking. I've met a book edito…
I was thinking it would be hard for you to make amends. Removing the submission from HN is an excellent start, but it's still on your blog: http://www.sebastianmarshall.com/?p=251 I don't think Patrick should have to do or say a single thing in order for you do the right thing. If he asks you to restore it, then do so.
This isn't about your reputation.
EDIT like edw519, I (FWIW) also want you to stick around. It's OK to make mistakes, provided you fix them. So... fix it, quick! Of course I can't speak for Patrick, but remember what happened with _why.
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#60Agreed. I don't think and article has made me feel so uncomfortable and wierded out for a while, if at all. Critically assessing someone in such a personal way is more than rude it is totally obnoxious. It verged from religious idolatry to deep psychoanalysis. And all of it based on stuff Patrick has posted online and nothing more. Sorry to rant, but I really disliked seeing that post voted up so much today and it is…