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Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by hga » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:32 PM UTC

flacon wrote: post #158

frossie wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a farewell lunch yesterday. Make a joke of it. If you get your job back, take all the same people out to lunch. Play up the funny side. Give a "take me back" speech, "what was I thinking" etc etc. Laugh at yourself, and the world with laugh with you. With your immigration status at stake, this is not the time to stand on some misplaced ego thing.

Don't say "The position didn't work out", which would cause suspicion and make you look bad. Blame them (Flaky Corp) for acting unprofessional. Go into your current manager, tell them you are in a really difficult and awkward situation. That you have had some communications very recently that have made you very uncomfortable with the new company and made you reconsider your decision. Your Boss will understand that me…

In general I agree except don't lie!. Whatever reason would he have to not say "my offer was rescinded by Flaky Corp" and he can use that as an opportunity to praise the stability of his Fortune 500 company and that sector.

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by mgentry11 » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 11:20 PM UTC

I represent a company in California that needs top ruby people. Send me a resume and let me see what we can do. We can move fast for the right person. I also know other companies in SF that need Ruby guys if you are good there are opportunities out here.

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by mgentry11 » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 11:45 PM UTC

I am a recruiter representing a few Ruby driven companies in SF. They can handle VISAs for the right people. If you want send me your resume and I can see if we can move fast. I have recruited 20 years and I have never had a company I worked for pull the Visa unless they had a serious layoff. Feel free to reach out to me on linkedin. http://www.linkedin.com/in/markgentry/

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by alivenbreathing » Fri, Sep 24, 2010, 1:53 AM UTC

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Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by digitalhobbit » Sat, Sep 25, 2010, 12:21 AM UTC

Wildfire is hiring Ruby developers as well. Would love to chat with you about this. Apply here: http://wildfireapp.jobscore.com/jobs/wildfireapp/ruby-develo...

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by ahoyhere » Sat, Sep 25, 2010, 12:52 PM UTC

joboffer wrote: post #8

patio11 wrote: post #2

Talk to a lawyer and ask what "detrimental reliance" means. (Short version: what you just did owing to representation that they had a job for you. Comes with damages.) Let your old company tell you you can't have your job back, don't make that decision for them.

I don't want to make a decision for my current company. They may even let me have it back. I'm on very good terms with my team too and they were in fact, disappointed to see me go. I'd just hate myself to go back with my head hung in shame telling them that 'oh my job didn't work out'...take me back. I had a farewell lunch yesterday. Everyone in my extended team knows I'm leaving. My exit interview is planned for ear…

Would you rather be temporarily embarrassed, or kicked out of the country? Pick your battles.

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by lien » Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 4:01 AM UTC

there's no reason why you have to tell your current employer that your offer was retracted. tell them you've given the new job a second thought and that you feel that belong where you are.

you can't sue in this situation because i'm sure somewhere inside the offer letter it says the new job/company has the ability to terminate employment at will.

Re: Ask HN: Offer of Employment retracted

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Post by yoak » Wed, Nov 03, 2010, 7:53 PM UTC

ciupicri wrote: post #80

yoak wrote: post #50

I've been a hiring manager for hundreds of programmers over the years at several companies. With the exception of maybe one or two people I was preparing to get rid of anyway, if any one of the people who quit came back during their notice period with this story I would insist that they stay and fight fiercely with any other forces in the company that might resist it. It also wouldn't lower my esteem for the person.…

I think that it also depends on what terms people are leaving. It's one thing to say you're leaving because you're starting a company and another thing because you're sick of writing mundane database/web applications, using Waterfall instead of Agile etc. or even worse because almost everything is a mess.

It's certainly the case that if they're leaving because they're unhappy that something is true and it is still going to be true when they consider returning it would give me pause. :-)

Even then, it might be possible to convince me if they come back with a reason they were wrong and think the thing is good (e.g. I tried Agile and discovered it isn't better, and my actual problem was this...) rather than just, "I decided to put up with it here..."