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Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by acct1771 »

jobigoud wrote: post #9

Startup idea: proof of consent as a service. A website/app where you can quickly declare consent for a specific activity, and share that declaration privately with a specific other user of the app. Each entry is secure/private to only you and the person you share it with. The entries are timestamped, you cannot delete them. Then before the act, you quickly do a consent exchange and each person has the proof that the…

I'm...pretty sure I just became in support of that controversy, for no other reason than to improve cryptographic proof UX.

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by acct1771 »

philwelch wrote: post #10
jobigoud wrote: post #9

Startup idea: proof of consent as a service. A website/app where you can quickly declare consent for a specific activity, and share that declaration privately with a specific other user of the app. Each entry is secure/private to only you and the person you share it with. The entries are timestamped, you cannot delete them. Then before the act, you quickly do a consent exchange and each person has the proof that the…

Still can’t detect whether the consentor/s are legally capable of consenting.

Signing with your private key, only for this purpose, should be considered consent.

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by tomtimtall »

Sounds like a pretty run of the mill sexual assault. Guy follows drunk girl home and is too aggressive in trying to her to do something she doesn’t want ending with him forcefully putting her hand on his junk against her will. Only ofcause this is all very “troubling” because the sexes are reversed.

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by philwelch »

acct1771 wrote: post #12
philwelch wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still can’t detect whether the consentor/s are legally capable of consenting.

Signing with your private key, only for this purpose, should be considered consent.

Private keys don’t prove you don’t have a gun to your head.

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by PostOnce »

philwelch wrote: post #14
acct1771 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signing with your private key, only for this purpose, should be considered consent.

Private keys don’t prove you don’t have a gun to your head.

or that you aren't drunk, had your phone weakly secured and accessed by someone else (passed out and they used your fingerprint or something), or probably a number of other possibilities

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by acct1771 »

philwelch wrote: post #14
acct1771 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signing with your private key, only for this purpose, should be considered consent.

Private keys don’t prove you don’t have a gun to your head.

Entering a trap phrase elicits a success response for the attacker's benefit, and then surreptitiously gives coordinates to law enforcement, emergency contacts, Mark Zuckerberg, whoever.

See, we've almost got this built!

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by lwkl »

mamon wrote: post #8

Why not abolish Title IX completely? College students are adults, so the most serious (and possibly violent) sexual offences can be prosecuted according to criminal law, and the rest is just something two adults should be able to figure out by themselves. Cases like the one described in the article are simply impossible to be correctly assesed by the judge or jury: too little information, and all the reasoning rules…

I agree. In Europe universitys expect you to be an adult capable of managing your life and don‘t involve themselves in it.

American colleges seem more like closed communitys with their own rules. Maybe that‘s because most of the time only exchange students live on campus.

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by [deleted] »

tomtimtall wrote: post #13

Sounds like a pretty run of the mill sexual assault. Guy follows drunk girl home and is too aggressive in trying to her to do something she doesn’t want ending with him forcefully putting her hand on his junk against her will. Only ofcause this is all very “troubling” because the sexes are reversed.

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Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by mnr »

acct1771 wrote: post #16
philwelch wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Private keys don’t prove you don’t have a gun to your head.

Entering a trap phrase elicits a success response for the attacker's benefit, and then surreptitiously gives coordinates to law enforcement, emergency contacts, Mark Zuckerberg, whoever. See, we've almost got this built!

What’s stopping someone from entering a trap phrase to... entrap the other party?

Re: Mutually Nonconsensual Sex

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Post by namlem »

mamon wrote: post #8

Why not abolish Title IX completely? College students are adults, so the most serious (and possibly violent) sexual offences can be prosecuted according to criminal law, and the rest is just something two adults should be able to figure out by themselves. Cases like the one described in the article are simply impossible to be correctly assesed by the judge or jury: too little information, and all the reasoning rules…

Title IX is a fine law overall, it's just certain specifics that need amending.
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