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Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by StudentStuff »

Klathmon wrote: post #30
devereaux wrote: post #21

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counterfeit items like SD cards dominate on Amazon. I tried reporting fake electronic equipment - nothing happened, except I seldom buy anything on Amazon anymore. Amazon should at least be liable for willingly selling items that do not match the description (if they tell me it's a Sandisk SD, I buy it because I believe it is!)

I'm surprised SanDisk and other major brands that are getting their names dragged through the mud aren't doing something about it.

Even Apple can't prevent fake lightning cables from permeating Amazon, how is a much smaller company like SanDisk supposed to prevent fake microSDs? Its not as though Amazon is willing to QA every microSD card that passes through their warehouses.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by ikeboy »

scarface74 wrote: post #70
ikeboy wrote: post #55

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The first link has almost 11 thousand reviews and currently 34 sellers. 44% of those reviews are 5 star. 34% are 1 star. It is certainly the case that some of those sellers are selling fakes. It is also likely that some are selling authentic products.

This is the first link https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL-EarPods-Remote-Mic/dp/B... The Q and A section and many of the reviews are saying that they are fake. They are $13.99. The real Apple headphones are $29.99 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MNHF2AM/A/earpods-with-35... Apple never sells anything at wholesale at over a 50% discount. Where would a third party company be getting new Apple headphones from where…

Carrier auctions, mostly.

Anyway, if many of the units sold are fake and some are real, you'd expect a large number of reviews both ways, which is what you can see.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by guelo »

jokh wrote: post #61
guelo wrote: post #26

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I happened to have the same soap bought at a Walgreens to compare it with. It smelled much worse, an unknown chemically smell, and it was about 30 percent smaller, though it still had the characteristic Dove oval shape.

Interesting. Were you able to get it refunded?

Not worth it.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by mohdmasd »

asfasgasg wrote: post #10
ctrl-j wrote: post #7

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In your eyes, what would be the mechanism for a US citizen to sue a manufacturer who has no presence outside of China other than the Amazon marketplace?

I could imagine maybe a law requiring foreign companies to obtain a bond when selling consumer goods, if they don't have substantial presence in the U.S. This bond would be a surety that consumers could recover damages in the case of negligence, at least up to a certain amount. I don't see the argument for requiring Amazon to perform that service, though.

Letter of Guarantee?

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/letter_of_guarantee.asp

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by DrScump »

takeda wrote: post #27
vinceguidry wrote: post #11

This is just going to make me more and more wary of buying through Amazon. Good companies aren't afraid of accountability.

I learned that a friend was (maybe still is) selling vitamins and probiotics through Amazon. I wasn't able to learn who was producing it only knew that it was made in US and most likey a neighbor. He also was selling vitamin K, when asked my doctor about she said she would recommend not to take it, and the daily dose suggested is typically prescribed and usually taken one time. That seriously made me cautious about i…

Counterfeit vitamins and supplements are a big problem on Amazon as well. I bought Schiff COQ10 on Amazon and got fake product.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by scarface74 »

ikeboy wrote: post #72
scarface74 wrote: post #70

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This is the first link https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL-EarPods-Remote-Mic/dp/B... The Q and A section and many of the reviews are saying that they are fake. They are $13.99. The real Apple headphones are $29.99 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MNHF2AM/A/earpods-with-35... Apple never sells anything at wholesale at over a 50% discount. Where would a third party company be getting new Apple headphones from where…

Carrier auctions, mostly. Anyway, if many of the units sold are fake and some are real, you'd expect a large number of reviews both ways, which is what you can see.

Some wouldn't know they were fake and others wouldn't care.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by azinman2 »

dmix wrote: post #42
wildmusings wrote: post #19

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Based on his comment, I think mikeash meant “not liable”.

Agreed and I agree with him if that's what he meant, which is interesting to consider the different response each one got. Much like gun manufacturers aren't responsible for their use, I can't imagine a platform which lets vendors set up their own shops online becoming responsible for what is sold by the vendor.

Meanwhile bar tenders in many states are responsible for drunk drivers. Craigslist is now responsible for sex traffic on it’s website (which is why personals are gone).

Liability laws are not consistent.

Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold

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Post by nordsieck »

StudentStuff wrote: post #71
Klathmon wrote: post #30

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I'm surprised SanDisk and other major brands that are getting their names dragged through the mud aren't doing something about it.

Even Apple can't prevent fake lightning cables from permeating Amazon, how is a much smaller company like SanDisk supposed to prevent fake microSDs? Its not as though Amazon is willing to QA every microSD card that passes through their warehouses.

> Its not as though Amazon is willing to QA every microSD card that passes through their warehouses.

Segregating stock from different venders would go a long way to fixing the problem. Right now everything is just thrown into the same slush bin, so Amazon can't tell which vendor sent them counterfeit goods when a customer complains.

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