This is just going to make me more and more wary of buying through Amazon. Good companies aren't afraid of accountability.
Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
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Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#12what state is Amazon in
just bomb them
blame the jews
kill a whole bunch of people
if your customers lives are worthless, then your people are worthless
this is war
the people of the usa can declare war on the people in the state where Amazon is allowed to have its headquarters
we outnumber you
we can kill half your people
we can kill 99% of your people
you keep killing us,
why shouldn't we kill you
you are attacking us you fucking idiots
you are negative life
you are an internal enemy
you are a traitor
we can legally execute you
trial by trigger finger
Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#13This is just going to make me more and more wary of buying through Amazon. Good companies aren't afraid of accountability.
We know how Americans think; meaning if they had won this one many people would start pretending a product bought on Amazon puts their lives at risk just to sue amazon and get a bit fat check; even burning their own house if they can win for more than the house is worth.
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#14Sounds like there needs to be a “know your merchant” law. It makes sense to me that Amazon might not be liable, but it makes no sense at all that people can’t get in touch with the actual seller.
It makes zero sense to me that Amazon might be liable.
Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#15Rightfully so, how can this be seen any other way? It's the manufacturer's responsibility to make a product that doesn't burn down your house.
Its the bazar companys responsibility to avoid counterfeit goods, by having the company who trades their leave either there winnings and/or a safety deposit behind in case they get sued. Its also to make sure, the legal system of the customer binds on the trading contract and inform/warn the customer that the item in question could be a molotow cocktail.
I re-read the article a few times and saw no mention of the product being counterfeit. They are all chintzy, poorly constructed, and come out of the same factory or two. Even if there was a brand name to counterfeit, the "counterfeit" would likely be almost exactly the same as the genuine article. Monoprice has a business model based on this premise.
What is the metric for "Molotov cocktail"? Anything that has batteries with a high energy density can be extremely dangerous. Cell phones, laptops, RC cars, power banks, and anything with a lithium ion battery can catastrophically and potentially fatally fail. Sure, you could mandate that Amazon run their own battery of safety tests on every product that is sold on their site; they sure as hell could afford it. The problem is that there's just about nobody else in the market that can.
Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#16I'm so done with Amazon, it's all shady Chinese companies selling counterfeits and knockoffs. I was blown away when I bought fake Dove soap the other day in perfect looking packaging. It's impossible to trust anything on there.
Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
In your eyes, what would be the mechanism for a US citizen to sue a manufacturer who has no presence outside of China other than the Amazon marketplace?
I could imagine maybe a law requiring foreign companies to obtain a bond when selling consumer goods, if they don't have substantial presence in the U.S. This bond would be a surety that consumers could recover damages in the case of negligence, at least up to a certain amount. I don't see the argument for requiring Amazon to perform that service, though.
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#18I'm so done with Amazon, it's all shady Chinese companies selling counterfeits and knockoffs. I was blown away when I bought fake Dove soap the other day in perfect looking packaging. It's impossible to trust anything on there.
What gave it away that the soap was a knockoff? I can't say I'd know how to identify counterfeit soap other than maybe extremely low quality packaging.
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#19Sounds like there needs to be a “know your merchant” law. It makes sense to me that Amazon might not be liable, but it makes no sense at all that people can’t get in touch with the actual seller.
It makes zero sense to me that Amazon might be liable.
Based on his comment, I think mikeash meant “not liable”.
Re: Judge rules that Amazon isn't liable for damages caused by a hoverboard it sold
#20By this reasoning no merchant is ever liable for any of their products because they all come from third parties. Tablet blows up? Don't blame Samsung or Apple, blame the supplier in China. This is all part of the trend over the last few decades of removing any accountability, responsibility, or liability big companies might have towards people so they can profit more and never be held responsible for their actions. This also follows the same trend in government itself where public officials and servants themselves are no longer held responsible for their actions even when their actions cause the loss of human lives. In a culture that loves nothing more than to blame others and never accept blame, this leads to government and companies that respond to no one, are not regulated or overseen by anyone, and eventually commit atrocities including maiming and murdering people for profit and advancement. We really should start to think as a society about holding these entities responsible for their reprehensible actions. Otherwise what is the message we give as a society? That it's ok to hurt and kill others as long as you do it as part or a company or government. Is that the type of society we really want to be?