I am not who you think I am
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#12I will explain my line of thinking, which does not excuse the large gaffe I made, but perhaps so people can understand my thinking. I've met a book editor, a literary agent, a prominent researcher, and other notable people through my writing on my site.
I am four months into blogging, and getting the feel for what is right and good for decorum when discussing publicly with discussing others is tricky. I shared no information that wasn't public knowledge, I broke no confidence, and I shared what I was thinking, in a way I believed would be constructive.
The community has mixed feelings over that. For the record, I did not expect the piece to be so popular, nor for it to have such a negative reaction. I misjudged.
A prominent, very good member here and I shared a few emails when this was happening. He condemned me strongly, and I listen to that - random people saying hateful things I don't notice, but good arguments from good people I do. In the end, he recommended "One thing you could do is to email Paul Graham to ask him to kill your post, to explain why and then remove the article from your blog. I think the damage to your reputation would be minimized that way."
I will not look to preserve my reputation here - I have presented what I thought, it was my honest and well-intentioned thought, but I did it carelessly. A few hours ago, I emailed patio and told him I would edit, delete, amend, or otherwise follow his instructions if he preferred. I still will; I will respect his wishes.
John - I'm going to respect Patio's wishes, whatever he wishes, and try not to make this into a larger spectacle. We have had some (always civil) disagreements in the past, but I would ask you do the same.
Going forwards, I will learn from this error, and be more cautious and tactful in the discussion of other people. For my part, I hold no ill will for people, even ones who said horrible things, and my door is still always open to people who need a hand. I'll lay low for a while, and be more tactful going forwards. If anyone feels harmed or like this is a less safe space for them, you have my apologies, and I will be more cautious and tactful going forwards.
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#14Easily the most controversial thing I've ever written, but I'll stand up and be accounted for in my errors. I write once daily, every day, and I write honestly. Here, the mistake I made was not filtering my thought by another person who could feel ill because of it. I will explain my line of thinking, which does not excuse the large gaffe I made, but perhaps so people can understand my thinking. I've met a book edito…
What scrolls off the front page scrolls out of the present into ancient history.
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#15Easily the most controversial thing I've ever written, but I'll stand up and be accounted for in my errors. I write once daily, every day, and I write honestly. Here, the mistake I made was not filtering my thought by another person who could feel ill because of it. I will explain my line of thinking, which does not excuse the large gaffe I made, but perhaps so people can understand my thinking. I've met a book edito…
Relax. A month from now this will be forgotten. What am I saying, a month? A few days from now it will be forgotten. What scrolls off the front page scrolls out of the present into ancient history.
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#16> There's no demand for that sort of thing here. Don't shoot me for saying it (I wasn't one of them), but 197 upvotes say otherwise. How often does something get 197 upvotes? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1720244
Judging by the fact that in spite of receiving 197 upvotes it is currently not on the homepage it received a large number of flags as well.
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#17Whilst I agree with some of the sentiment of your post (we all have public personas), I don't think this calls for a banning at all - not even a light slap on the wrist. If you have a public persona, then it's certainly fair game for others to criticise it. Seriously, what do you think this is, kindergarten? This is the real world. If you don't want to receive undesired advice or criticism, don't be a public figure.
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#18HN needs its own drama tv show. This is getting ridiculous.
I received a phone call from someone claiming to be both patio11 & jgrahamc. I must say I found it very puzzling.
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#19Whilst I agree with some of the sentiment of your post (we all have public personas), I don't think this calls for a banning at all - not even a light slap on the wrist. If you have a public persona, then it's certainly fair game for others to criticise it. Seriously, what do you think this is, kindergarten? This is the real world. If you don't want to receive undesired advice or criticism, don't be a public figure.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or one could espouse an ideal on real world behavior closer to that of kindergarten, wherein one claims things such as 'be nice to one another', and the world could...be nicer? While your realism is realistic, its also chilling.
There's no use pretending this is anything other than the public world. Bits of HN comments regularly get quoted on blogs and news sites. I recall someone once upon a time getting blasted both on and off HN for a callous comment made on this site. Pretending that it's not public will only lead to sore disappointments when reality invariably proves that actually, yes, this is a public forum, and anything you say here…
The internet is mean because the internet is mean. If it were more nice, it would be less mean, and there are interpersonal feedback loops which support that.