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Some of the early results we are seeing from GDPR make one question how ‘sensible’ it really is.
Can you post to any of those results from the actual regulators? So far there have been a few people just giving up before the regulators get involved, which seems like a massive over reaction.
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But in this context it really doesn't work well as an analogy. Few rich people have any inclination to sleep rough, whereas many wealthy tech companies have been happily selling their users' data as the law allowed it.
The idea is large companies can afford the compliance costs.
Only little people would steal a crust of bread for their supper. The rich generally commit bigger crimes.
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If you walk into a store and buy something, does the owner not have a right to record relevant personal information as it pertains to the sale, such as when buying a car? This idea that those vendors ought to be required to delete records seems backwards — you aren’t required to interact with entities that do things you don’t like — unless it’s the government, no escaping that. Public records are potentially more har…
> This idea that those vendors ought to be required to delete records seems backwards GDPR doesn't introduce a requirement to delete data upon request.
I"m not really a fan of the GDPR. I don't think it really protects privacy. I think it just uses the power of the EU, a fairly big and strong organization, to intimidate the rest of the world to comply with laws that it really shouldn't have legal jurisdiction to enforce globally. I think this is a scary precedent to set that the biggest bully on the block can de facto enforce such standards because the rest of the w…
They aren’t attempting to enforce legislation globally. If a company operates in the EU, it has to comply. For companies that don’t operate in the EU and have no EU customers or traffic, they don’t. Simple
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In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread or violate the GDPR. -- Anatole France (I might have edited that quote slightly)
OMG this is perfect! I'm so stealing this quote. It applies to so much it's scary.
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That's their interpretation, and they don't face consequences if it's wrong. Since I've gotten advice to the contrary from lawyers looking into GDPR, I won't trust it until there's clear feedback from regulators or courts about it. Fonts are easy enough to self-host.
> Fonts are easy enough to self-host But what’s special about fonts ? If I can’t reference an asset outside my own domain because the network request could allow the 3rd party to log an IP address, How is that not antithetical to the foundation of the WWW? Besides the fact that this goes against the last decade of advice on how to speed up your site...
Is it really that unreasonable that loading a page to x.com should only load resources from x.com and 3rd-party resources compatible with X's privacy policy?
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The problem there is that you can't just say "no tracking", you have to be able to argue that there really is no tracking. If you put in content from a third party and have no legal promise by them that they don't track, you can't know if your users are tracked or not.
Then just put that in your privacy policy and you are off the hook. If Google tracks something, whether it is via their fonts, by putting some cookie on your site or whatever, it is their problem (and they actually said so, in that Github post referring to the font issue). They are the ones collecting and processing the data, not you, so they will have to deal with the GDPR compliance.
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BlaBlaCar is about carpooling, it is not a Uber ripoff, but you'd know that if you had travelled once to Europe. It is about different values - solidarity, ecology, social relationships - than just underpaying the guy-next-door to do anything you're willing to pay for with your smartphone. Otherwise the only person that seems to be "foaming a the mouth" is you, in this ridiculous Murica rant. Do I need to remind you…
I have to point out that blablacar is not about solidarity, ecology or social relationships, to the contrary actually, it's about being a vampire draining money from solidarity and ecology and market domination. I mean carpooling was about solidarity and ecology, then blablacar seized the market and turned it into "no mobile phone, no credit card, no access to carpooling", "give us money first". I used to carpool bef…
So you just hate it because it's a company and it's making money. Right ?
> I mean carpooling was about solidarity and ecology, then blablacar seized the market and turned it into "no mobile phone, no credit card, no access to carpooling", "give us money first".
BlaBlaCar single-handedly created the huge carpooling market that now does exist in France for example. They didn't seize the market, people gave it to them. There are still other carpooling websites which you can use, and carpooling panels in events are still a common thing.
Up-front payment, not directly giving out people's phone number : you pretend this is bad practice, but this is exactly the security that was needed to bring the masses to carpooling, and as a matter of fact it did.
You seem to dislike that people would be ok in a win-win situation, where they both get paid for their expenses, and are happy to chat with other people while doing a small move for the planet. This is what's happening.
> I hate how blablacar turned something that was about helping each other and bringing people together into a capitalist profit making venture aiming for world market domination.
This is truly misguided. The opposite equivalent to my parent, but now with an anti-capitalist idealistic view of the world. Do you not see that? People are not into this ideological warfare of yours. The "world market domination" ... of carpooling? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Please find a mindset where you are able to leave BlaBlaCar be. Seriously, these are people too, and they are providing a great service. And I'm worried people, just like you do, are too prone to ranting on companies for all the bad reasons. The very reason you're using the excessive word hate, to me, seems to prove you're personalizing the entity and are a bit out of the rational realm in your claims.
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> If I ran a forum for a number of years, and a person decided to close their account, that'd be fine. But if they then said that I need to remove _all of their posts_, that's really shitty. > It would destroy the usefulness of a forum. Couldn't you just anonymize their posts, for instance by updating their username to something like "Deleted User"? Wouldn't you be fine as long as there wasn't anything left to link t…
What if some used quoted another user without the quote function? Or took a snippet from a user as forum signature? Those are easily handled but still if you are a hobbist it’s just too much hassle.
A general question for the GDPR experts: If user A does a request of their data and user B added a page their Instapaper account that had user A listed, does that page have to be included in the response to user A?
I didn't get an answer there. It is basically the same scenario of one user referencing another.
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If you walk into a store and buy something, does the owner not have a right to record relevant personal information as it pertains to the sale, such as when buying a car? This idea that those vendors ought to be required to delete records seems backwards — you aren’t required to interact with entities that do things you don’t like — unless it’s the government, no escaping that. Public records are potentially more har…
The owner of the store does have the right to record the sales transaction data. But that was never under dispute even with GDPR. GDPR specifically says that you do not have the right to be forgotten in the information is important for legal compliance (e.g. tax records), free speech, and a couple of other things. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da... See “when does [it] not apply?” GDPR alr…
I still have no idea what to do exactly. I don’t really think it is my responsibility but I live in a country and operate in another country where laws this vague are unenforceable.