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Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by borism » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 8:57 PM UTC

antidaily wrote: post #8

They closed shop after DHH's scathing criticism.

that and the movie.

enough is enough!

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by _delirium » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 8:58 PM UTC

seldo wrote: post #49

Astro9k wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. So twitter censors disparaging comments about companies? Wow.

More likely that terms that are continuously mentioned in huge numbers (and therefore don't count as "trending") are omitted.

There are more principled ways to do that than a blacklist, though, like looking at current frequency compared to typical frequency. That way even something commonly mentioned could still genuinely be trending if it gets mentioned much more than usual on a particular day.

(It's possible there are scale-related reasons that make this infeasible, though.)

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by 9ec4c12949a4f3 » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 8:59 PM UTC

In A.D. 2010

War was Beginning.

Internet: What happen?

MarkZ: Somebody set up us the bomb.

FB: We get signal

MarkZ: What?!

FB: Main screen turn on.

MarkZ: It's you!!

DDH: How are you gentlemen !!

DDH: All your Information are belong to us.

DDH: You are on the way to destruction.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by daten » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:00 PM UTC

The significance of the "like" button missing from other sites is lost on me.

I've been using the Application Boundaries Enforcer feature of no-script in Firefox to block facebook content when I'm not visiting a facebook site directly.

  Site .facebook.com .fbcdn.net
  Accept from .facebook.com .fbcdn.net
  Deny

This is motivated by privacy concerns of Facebook's ability to track which partner sites I visit.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by bbuffone » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:04 PM UTC

In researching web performance DNS configurations issues are common problem. It is usually related to www.foo.com and foo.com being configured differently. This seems to be at a high level the issue with facebook.com. if you go to "facebook.com" the DNS will resolve correctly, but it will redirect you to www.facebook.com. I guess they could stop the redirection and fix the problem immediately, or wait till the sorry.ak.facebook.com.edgesuite.net is fixed.

=====www.facebook.com

new-host-3:dpu2 robertbuffone$ dig -trace www.facebook.com ;; Warning, ignoring invalid type race

; > DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 > -trace www.facebook.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.facebook.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION: www.facebook.com. 0 IN CNAME sorry.ak.facebook.com.edgesuite.net. sorry.ak.facebook.com.edgesuite.net. 0 IN CNAME a1030.g.akamai.net. a1030.g.akamai.net. 4 IN A 63.84.59.59 a1030.g.akamai.net. 4 IN A 63.84.59.10

;; Query time: 10 msec ;; SERVER: 198.6.1.142#53(198.6.1.142) ;; WHEN: Thu Sep 23 16:57:29 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 144

========facebook.com

new-host-3:dpu2 robertbuffone$ dig -trace facebook.com ;; Warning, ignoring invalid type race

; > DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 > -trace facebook.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER;; QUESTION SECTION: ;facebook.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION: facebook.com. 352 IN A 69.63.181.12 facebook.com. 352 IN A 69.63.189.16 facebook.com. 352 IN A 69.63.189.11

;; Query time: 13 msec ;; SERVER: 198.6.1.142#53(198.6.1.142) ;; WHEN: Thu Sep 23 16:57:44 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 78

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by djcapelis » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:05 PM UTC

Their SSL site still continues to simply not work:

  www.facebook.com uses an invalid security certificate.

  The certificate is only valid for the following names:
  a248.e.akamai.net , *.akamaihd.net

This is the biggest problem with the SSL PKI. It is partially responsible for the lackluster deployment of SSL. We need to switch to a TOFU model supplemented by a more nimble version of the current PKI for first connect acceptance.

You would not believe how often I run into problems just trying to use SSL on major sites. If you can't trust a large organizations like facebook and akamai to mess up SSL support during problems, you simply will never get it deployed well on all the rest of the sites.

SSL is simply a poor user experience. Twitter's SSL site often goes down more often than the main site too. SSL users get a second class experience and that is the most damming thing I can think of for a technology where deployment is so critical.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by mjgoins » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:09 PM UTC

This affects me in no direct way. I officially have a good life.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by akadien » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:11 PM UTC

Thank goodness for Ping ...

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

#69

Post by spolsky » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:12 PM UTC

cauliflower farms everywhere are withering for lack of water.

Re: Facebook Down, Like Buttons Vanish, Internet Implodes

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Post by smackfu » Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 9:16 PM UTC

dansingerman wrote: post #19

As an aside I notice that 'Facebook' is not a trending topic on Twitter. Seems the term must be blacklisted in some way along with all the swears and other undesirable terms. Which seems a bit underhand by Twitter. Edit: I notice that 'Facebook isnt working' has appeared now. I've blogged about this issue here: http://blog.dansingerman.com/post/1174729229/twitter-mostly-... (if anyone cares)

Before, two of the trending topics were "Facebooks" and "isnt working".