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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Haha data export page, what even is that? Let me just go to my SQL DB, redis, glacier backups, and Kafka logs and just click the data export button. It will only take 3 minutes.

Maybe you could create some sort or reusable digital tool that could be used to aggregate all the data for any given user? Perhaps it be could be called a "script" or "program"?

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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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How are the representatives "unelected"? The European Parliament is elected every five years by the citizens of all EU member states and voted on the GDPR in 2016 after long talks. Some even say that the GDPR is not hard enough.

The GDPR was passed by the European Comission, not the EP. Members of the EC are appointed, just like ministers in governments. But governments can only pass time limited decrees which then have to be signed into laws and voted for in Parliament. The EC which can pass binding regulations that apply indefinitely.

I think you mean "proposed" instead of "passed" - "passed" is usually used to mean "passed a law"

The commission proposes legislation, the council & parliament pass it

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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The nightmare letter is bogus scaremongering bullshit. THe forum owner should just i) post a link to the privacy policy (which surely explains things like legitimate needs) and ii) supplies a copy of the data being held.

This is so incredibly tonedeaf: do you honestly think that small hobby-scale websites have a privacy policy?

Do you believe that hobbyists must not follow laws & regulations when they interact with the public?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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how is interpretation of the law not a problem with any law that was in effect before GDPR. It didn't stop anybody from starting businesses before and will not after.

It's punishment amounts. Laws should strive for minimal maximums and reasonable ranges to apply that interpretation in. We don't say every crime is punishable up to a life sentence for a reason. The more leeway the law provides, the more room for abuse (for either side). It would not have been hard to define multiple reasonable ranges, but sadly they think these values are what gives the law "teeth" (instead of actua…

The EU had competition law before that mentions 10% of global turnover as a maximum fee, along with very detailed notes of how to set them: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:...

The Sherman Act also mentions a ceiling of 10 million, 3 years of prison for private persons. And from history we know antitrust authorities broke up companies like AT&T or Standard Oil, which seems to me a much bigger punishment.

Both laws only mention the maximum fine.

Yet you don't see small companies sweating over competition law.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I just sent a GDPR letter to a company in the UK, which is still part of the EU. I have one of their Android phones, and it came with a non-removable app. It appeared to just be a bookmark. One day that app woke up and sent me a notification asking me to visit a web site, which led to a SurveyMonkey form.

So I sent the company a letter asking what data they have on me. It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Guy shuts down forum, goes through the nightmare letter dissecting each part as "good question" or "you should have this already" or "easy one". So what was his issue anyway?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I'm a little confused. Who is sending compliance requests? If it's not the ico, there's rely no problem. If it is the ico, ask what needs to change. No lawyers required.

Have you ever ran a business that, uh, intended to scale beyond one employee and a hobby website? I've never seen a company be threatened with some form of legal attack and not get lawyers involved. Especially with such a new law like the GDPR that has no judicial precedences upon which to build business processes. I've been in companies as small as 4 people, and we still had lawyers on retainer for stuff like this (copyright violations in user hosted content was a big one before GDPR).

If you can completely distill a binder of a legal framework down to an "if this then that else this" sentence, you don't understand it, and your hubris is going to kill your company. If you think the correct response is "don't respond, wait until it escalates", you don't understand it and your hubris is going to kill your company. If you're doing anything worthwhile you're going to be bumping up against some law or another, and you can't just ignore it and you can't afford to not understand it. That's why you pay lawyers.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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The owner of the store does have the right to record the sales transaction data. But that was never under dispute even with GDPR. GDPR specifically says that you do not have the right to be forgotten in the information is important for legal compliance (e.g. tax records), free speech, and a couple of other things. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-da... See “when does [it] not apply?” GDPR alr…

> GDPR already applies to governments. What makes you think it is not? This, for example: > Germany's spy agency can monitor major internet hubs if Berlin deems it necessary for strategic security interests, a federal court has ruled. > In a ruling late on Wednesday, the Federal Administrative Court threw out a challenge by the world's largest internet hub, the De-Cix exchange, against the tapping of its data flows b…

GDPR has national security exemptions dude...

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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He's still obliged to respond to that letter. Can't hide like this. (guys, I'm being sarcastic)

Do you think if the complaint went to a government official in the EU they would throw down the hammer on a site that was up for all of a couple days in GDPR time? I have my doubts. I've got a handful of sites (ultimately for portfolio / coding practice type stuff) out there. Honestly it wouldn't take me too much to respond to someone's letter considering the simplicity of the site(s), not that anyone uses them. I al…

Then I dare you to post one of those website la here.
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