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Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

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Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

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While there are good intentions here, what happens if China and Russia military get ahead of US military in this technology due to us limiting ourselves

The inverse of this: if USA gets far ahead in this technology, China and Russia will be forced to double down on AI weapons as well, just to keep up. The only country that can cool down an arms race, is the one that's currently leading the pack.

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#102
post #65

This will really hurt their enterprise cloud business. Google has shown to have a bunch of employees who will leak confidential discussions to the press and try to PR damage their employer. If you are a large company looking for a home, that is exactly the kind of environment you want to avoid. In addition, many of the large US companies have a military component. Examples are GE, Boeing, United Technologies. How man…

Who cares about Google? What Alphabet does, matters. A new subsidiary with strict confidentiality? They can play with optimizing company structure depending on the area of business as they like.

That doesn't help when Googlers intend on sabotaging Google when Alphabet goes against progressive supremacist Googler ethos. You cannot separate them through secrecy or through force.

The fate of Google is the fate of Alphabet.

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not PR fluff that one of the worlds most prestigious workforces has publicly rejected this kind of work. Money cant buy that quality of publicity, it has come from the hearts and minds of the workforce.

If they had listened, they would pull out immediately. Not sure if you realize that they'll continue working on this for a few more months before they are out...

There is certainly going to be a special atmosphere while the few unlucky engineers finish up the existing contract for legalities sake.

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#104

This sends a more powerful message than if the corporation had just avoided the work in the first place. I am hopeful and inspired by the employees stand. Lights are shining through the cracks in the conflict dominated narrative of these times, and we have never had greater means to analyse and resolve our troubles with each other and with our environment. Thankyou Googlers for showing up for resolution.

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Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

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post #90
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see the problem here. Do you understand why people would want a motto like "Don't be evil"?

They don't have it anymore. Now it's "do the right thing". What is "the right thing" of course is up to the management to decide.

”still: “And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up!”

Last line of google company motto. They moved it but “don’t be evil” is still in the motto.

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#106
post #5

Congrads google activists you have hurt your employer's business and business prospects and prevented your colleagues from working on really interesting AI applications relegating their life's work to sorting photo albums. Oh, and none of that will make a difference because a competitor of yours will pick up the slack and be in a position to offer really interesting work to attract and retain researchers.

Google is, after all, a company famously hurting for business and business prospects.

No but they are infamous for missing opportunities

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

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post #69
post #43

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> the US certainly isn't 100% trustworthy. The US is the most wildly insane, two-faced and upside-down country in the world right now in terms of military. The commander-in-chief routinely makes nuclear threats, actively hurts his own citizens in times of need, and seeks to decrease military stability by accelerating climate change and isolating his country from the world. The commander-in-chief lies about every sing…

Instead of downvoting cryptoz, I encourage people to counter what he said with their own replies. The majority of his statements in this post are verifiable facts. (I do not know this person, fwiw).

The individual facts are verifiable, but the overall conclusion that "the US is the most wildly insane, two-faced and upside-down country in the world right now in terms of military" is a borderline troll comment - I sense a strong possibility that it is meant to elicit a reaction rather than engage in a dialogue. Not to the point that I'd advocate its removal, but enough for me to downvote and not respond.

Seriously, the US is more insane than North Korea, a country that routinely launches ballistic missiles over countries that are essentially in a state of cold war with it? The United States' military position is more unstable than Venezuela, a county that is imprisoning it's own brass and experiencing large scale desertion[1] to the point that it's speculated that there may be a coup soon? I do not believe a reasonable person make either of these claims.

[1] http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/...

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it doesn't. It still gives them between 6 months and 18 months (whenever the contract expires in 2019) to continue working on this project. They may even finish it during that timeframe. This is purely PR fluff.

Its not PR fluff that one of the worlds most prestigious workforces has publicly rejected this kind of work. Money cant buy that quality of publicity, it has come from the hearts and minds of the workforce.

Unlikely. Alphabet will spin off the division and sell it for blood$.

Re: Google Won't Renew Contract for Project Maven, Pentagon Drone AI Imaging Program

#109
post #7

Great. There will be plenty of people willing to take Google's place.

Willing, but capable? Who has the AI, Maps, signals intelligence, and everything else capability to replace Google?

NSA?
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