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A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

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Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#181
...unpopular opinion time...

so, is anyone taking a long hard look and asking themselves, first individually and then collectively - "this situation , this and all the stuff going on in our world today, is this or is this not totally out of control?"

would be great to be able to do this without looking to some other country and saying "but that happens over there and that is way worse than this"

some of this stuff should be absolute (see intent of constitutions and similar )

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#182
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A huge problem here is that the government has zero skin in the game. Random people working for some three letter agency are able to plunge you into a bureaucratic labyrinth at the flick of a wrist, and even violate their own guidelines with an extremely low probability of accountability or repercussion. For example: > Under federal forfeiture law, the government was required to initiate a forfeiture case within 90 d…

Better yet, the Albanian gentleman should be deputized to seize and hold the property of the officers who flagrantly violated their oaths and his rights, garnish their paychecks, and let them wait anxiously for him to get around to telling them 'why'.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#183
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It's not how things should be, but it's what decades of incredibly poor middle Eastern foreign policy gets you. Being prepared for these things is not the same as saying these things are unavoidable certainties. There is quite a big distinction, along the lines of having a gun for self defense Vs having a gun to shoot someone. He is basically saying support the police in their counter terrorism work, and report anyth…

So much here. >but it's [terrorist attacks] what decades of incredibly poor middle Eastern foreign policy gets you. You believe terrorist attacks are deserved as a result of what your government has done in the past? >I'm quite happy my government takes measures to assure a certain level of personal safety, both physical and psychological. Which is it? Your government is taking measures to assure your protection, or…

> You believe terrorist attacks are deserved as a result of what your government has done in the past?

Nobody deserves to get hit by a car, but if you're running across a highway then what do you expect.

> Which is it? Your government is taking measures to assure your protection, or is actively provoking foreigners to kill you on your own soil?

Why are those mutually exclusive?

I would also tack on that it's mostly the USA's foreign policy that got us here (which our government decided to jump in bed with to be fair, but yours nonetheless). It's just you have a nice Atlantic ocean to buffer you from many of the concequences.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#184
Usually I like to see balance come about in due time like a pendulum slowly swinging from one side to the other, but it's stories like these that would have me understand action and revolt against the body perpetrating such morally wrong, yet supposedly legal actions. Time to call for a Robin Hood. He did not steal from the rich and give to the poor as most people think, but rather took back property and money seized by the corrupt brother of the good king who was absent and at war a distance away. Here the government allows for seizure without accountability, but the laws or whatever it is that allows this is legal?

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#185

Why would you risk carrying around that kind of money? What’s wrong with doing a wire transfer? Or just writing yourself a cheque? Failing to see an honest use case for moving that much cash by hand.

> Or just writing yourself a cheque?

Good luck cashing in a cheque underwritten by a US Bank in Albania.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#186
Has civil asset forfiture been to the Supreme Court? It's blatantly unconstitutional, and given the current panel I'd say it has a great chance of being killed.

I do have to say, it's a well known fact trying to make it across any border with a sum of cash is a risky business. I would hope America would be an exception to that fact due to "Due Process", but even I wouldn't place a bet on that. It says very clearly on the us travel website carrying more than $10k of cash is going to get you in trouble though.

Transferring money internationally is a huge pita. I just came back from China. Good luck every trying to fund a wechat or alipay account as a Westerner.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#187

Has civil asset forfiture been to the Supreme Court? It's blatantly unconstitutional, and given the current panel I'd say it has a great chance of being killed. I do have to say, it's a well known fact trying to make it across any border with a sum of cash is a risky business. I would hope America would be an exception to that fact due to "Due Process", but even I wouldn't place a bet on that. It says very clearly on…

Transferring money from China is easy via a wire. Converting RMB tO USD, on the other hand is a PITA and you won’t succeed if you don’t have the right documentation in triplicate.

You can use wechat to pay for things as a foreigner if you have a resident permit, or so I here.

Carrying more than $10k of cash is actually ok as long as you report it.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#188
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OK, I get it, the US being a superpower is under a microscope and every imperfection is called out so other countries can look down their nose at it. That's fine. But what are you talking about? What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better? And as a Canadian, saying the gov't run their is better is purely laughable.

> What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better? So does the UK, Australia, NZ, and many other countries. But somehow only the US has wannabe-military police rambo types doing it, to stock up their SWAT vans, machine guns and other gizmos. That does not exactly inspire confidence.

https://reporter.anu.edu.au/files/styles/anu_full_920_518/pu...

Hey look, Aussie SWAT.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

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OK, I get it, the US being a superpower is under a microscope and every imperfection is called out so other countries can look down their nose at it. That's fine. But what are you talking about? What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better? And as a Canadian, saying the gov't run their is better is purely laughable.

> What could the US learn from Canada on asset forfeiture? Canada does it too! How to do it better? So does the UK, Australia, NZ, and many other countries. But somehow only the US has wannabe-military police rambo types doing it, to stock up their SWAT vans, machine guns and other gizmos. That does not exactly inspire confidence.

Personally I prefer that US police look ugly and militaristic when they do it, since that sort of poor PR will work against them in the long run. If they presented themselves with a peaceful and calm aesthetic, the problem of asset forfeiture would be that much harder to mobilize the public against.

Re: A 64-year-old put his life savings in his carry-on, and U.S. Customs took it

#190

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Canadians as a whole apparently disagree. There are about ~700,000 Americans living in Canada, and also about ~700,000 Canadians living in the U.S. (see links below) However, the U.S. population is more than 8x that of Canada. That means that on a proportional basis, Canadians are about 8x more likely to move to the U.S. than Americans are to move to Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration_from_the_United_St…

Those links offer some other interesting comparisons. There are about 700,000 U.K. citizens living in the U.S., and only about 160,000 U.S. citizens living in the U.K. The populations are about 63 million and 320 million, respectively. On a proportional basis, one would expect to see 5x more Americans living in the U.K., but in fact, there are 4x more U.K. citizens living in the U.S. Similar ratios apply for other co…

The US has always had a much more liberal immigration policy for ROW. Moving to the EU as an American is nigh on impossible. If was even remotely easy I'd have done it years and years ago.

Granted, that doesn't say anything positive about the immigration policy of Germany when 30 year old children can get in and I don't stand a chance. Oh well.

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