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Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by tracker1 »

sametmax wrote: post #86
iambateman wrote: post #16

For the comparisons of this acquisition to Skype, yes Microsoft bungled the Skype acquisition. But they have been killing it with Typescript and Visual Studio. I feel like that at such a large company, the Typescript recent history matters more than the Skype history. Two very different areas with different people in charge, etc.

As much as I love VSCode, you live in a buble. A communication app affects way more people than a programming language or a text editor. Even my mother uses the former, while only a fraction of all the programmers I met in my life use the laters. And MS did messed up on other major products or companies - Rare video games. They did freaking golden eyes and conkers bad day and they manage to kill it. - they messed up…

Win10 could be better than win7, but too much time adding in ads and not enough refactoring the old UX all the way.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by neuland »

notamy wrote: post #288
throwaway5752 wrote: post #244

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How many projects are there out there that repositories hosted in GH, run in GH, and have package manifests that directly reference other GH repos. I'm sure there are a lot.

Most of the golang ecosystem, I think. Not to mention any other language-specific package managers that support pulling from GitHub...

I remember the CocoaPods debacle of 2016.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11245652

[1] https://github.com/CocoaPods/CocoaPods/issues/4989#issuecomm...

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by tracker1 »

deedubaya wrote: post #19
iambateman wrote: post #16

For the comparisons of this acquisition to Skype, yes Microsoft bungled the Skype acquisition. But they have been killing it with Typescript and Visual Studio. I feel like that at such a large company, the Typescript recent history matters more than the Skype history. Two very different areas with different people in charge, etc.

MS has always been pretty good at making products. MS has always been pretty bad at providing services.

Azure is pretty nice to use... Office 365 is second to none imho. Teams is great.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by ms013 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #85
londondev45 wrote: post #51

Microsoft has embraced Github with it's recent .Net core development, they are one of the largest contributors with some incredible cross platform dev tooling. C# is a pleasure and visual studio code is an excellent, extensible coding tool. Go forth Microsoft, the standard bashing in these communities is unjust.

I lived through the 90s, so I disagree. Anyone who feels perfectly comfortable with Microsoft's embracing of things they like is ignoring history. Maybe it's different this time, maybe it isn't.

I lived through the 90s too. It's been 20+ years since the peak of the Microsoft that gave them the reputation you're reflecting.

If "I lived through the 90s" was how I measured technology and companies, I'd sure as hell not be using Apple products - their technology was pretty terrible then, and the company was incoherent. Would any rational person say that the terrible tech and incoherence then translates to how one would accept what they produce in 2018? Some companies change, some don't (see: oracle). It seems a healthier approach is to measure the behavior and state of a company in the present.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by sandov »

morganvachon wrote: post #235
mihaela wrote: post #128

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Same here. I don't use Google products, other than search.

If you want to get Google search results and not give them any personal info or create a search bubble, try startpage.com or ixquick.com (same company). They have built a privacy-focused search engine that rides on Google's results. I'm not affiliated, I just enjoy using it. If you don't trust Startpage you can try DuckDuckGo with a !g modifier, it will search Google (mostly) anonymously for you.

As far as I understand, the !g modifier doesn't search anonymously for you, it just redirects you to the google results page. It's useful when you know that ddg won't give you a result as good as google.

You can also use the !sp flag, that redirects you to the startpage result page, without passing through google at any time, so that's what you should use instead of !g.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by oculusthrift »

ballenf wrote: post #232
giancarlostoro wrote: post #185

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To be fair they haven't screwed up LinkedIn. I think they will let GitHub grow with their resources.

I'd argue LinkedIn is much worse than it was pre-acquisition, but it was already on that trajectory. The "news feed" and discussions around current events, etc. They've locked down more and more of it without a $30/mo subscription. Privacy controls are a nightmare to decipher. I think it's significantly worse albeit probably short of totally "screwed up". Just marginally worse in a lot of small ways that add up to a…

just so you know, i know quite a few people at both linkedin and microsoft and for the most part they are still very seperate entities. linkedin is still using google docs and slack for instance. most of the influence microsoft has had on linkedin in smaller isolated integrations. so anything youve seen go downhill in linkedn consumer app is very much due to independent choices/acts by linkedin itself.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #292
gsich wrote: post #279

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Those devices only take you so far. They are consuming devices only, similar to a television. People still have and use normal PCs and will do so in the future. (Notebooks included of course)

That's kinda my point though. The strawman user these kinds of arguments prop up as the reason everything needs to suck is pretty much 100% consumer. There might be a few things, like typing documents and printing that aren't entirely covered by smartphones, tablets, and chromebooks, but that's a rapidly shrinking set of things.

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Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by gsich »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #292
gsich wrote: post #279

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Those devices only take you so far. They are consuming devices only, similar to a television. People still have and use normal PCs and will do so in the future. (Notebooks included of course)

That's kinda my point though. The strawman user these kinds of arguments prop up as the reason everything needs to suck is pretty much 100% consumer. There might be a few things, like typing documents and printing that aren't entirely covered by smartphones, tablets, and chromebooks, but that's a rapidly shrinking set of things.

>but that's a rapidly shrinking set of things

Doubt that. "Desktop" is defined by mouse, keyboard and display. A chromebook satisfies this. I have yet to meet a user who uses a smartphone instead of a PC to do stuff that are notably easier to do on a PC. (while having both)

I would also bet that every user would chose a keyboard over a touch interface to type text.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by tomnipotent »

TooBrokeToBeg wrote: post #293
tomnipotent wrote: post #127

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> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS. This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile.

Give it time. MS does what it has always done to competitors (even to MS internal products) that it acquires. Takes awhile sometimes and you younger kid will get to live through what others already have.

I'm probably older than you, but thanks for the condescension.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by therealtomsmith »

user5994461 wrote: post #103

This is negative value. The only reason the big companies host their source code on GitHub is because it's independent. They will stop doing that tomorrow if GitHub is acquired and it will lose all its value.

As someone who has always despised git for its complexity and being a movement more than a new technology I have been waiting years for this. Let git fracture and die. Maybe then we can get tools that work for us instead of the other way around.
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