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Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by morganvachon »

pmontra wrote: post #265
morganvachon wrote: post #235

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You can use Google without logging in and with one of those browser addons that delete cookies when leaving a site.

They still create a search bubble based on your IP address and browser fingerprinting.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

gsich wrote: post #279
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #252

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> I understand that many windows users are far from power users and the forced updates provide security updates I think this largely was only true of the period between the internet becoming a thing and the smartphone becoming a thing. Nowadays there's phones, tablets, and chromebooks that serve the needs of those people better and in a more convenient form factor. Desktops are for people who do work, create stuff, o…

Those devices only take you so far. They are consuming devices only, similar to a television. People still have and use normal PCs and will do so in the future. (Notebooks included of course)

That's kinda my point though. The strawman user these kinds of arguments prop up as the reason everything needs to suck is pretty much 100% consumer. There might be a few things, like typing documents and printing that aren't entirely covered by smartphones, tablets, and chromebooks, but that's a rapidly shrinking set of things.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by TooBrokeToBeg »

tomnipotent wrote: post #127
TooBrokeToBeg wrote: post #73

An acquisition would mean the inevitable split of support between the MS toolchain and the OS toolchain, which would eventually be left to die. Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS.

> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS. This is the silliest thing I've read on HN in awhile.

Give it time. MS does what it has always done to competitors (even to MS internal products) that it acquires. Takes awhile sometimes and you younger kid will get to live through what others already have.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by tracker1 »

nol13 wrote: post #158
philipov wrote: post #113

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Windows 10's forced updates and telemetry say otherwise.

Oh Hey! We see you're browsing AWS issues, GitHub recommends using Azure (GCP?) for the best developer experience, click [here] to begin your free trial!

It's that kind of crap, not even the telemetry that got me to switch off of windows entirely at home.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by throwaway5752 »

notamy wrote: post #288
throwaway5752 wrote: post #244

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How many projects are there out there that repositories hosted in GH, run in GH, and have package manifests that directly reference other GH repos. I'm sure there are a lot.

Most of the golang ecosystem, I think. Not to mention any other language-specific package managers that support pulling from GitHub...

And I was thinking JS/npm, not even golang.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Post by tracker1 »

ams6110 wrote: post #94
TooBrokeToBeg wrote: post #73

An acquisition would mean the inevitable split of support between the MS toolchain and the OS toolchain, which would eventually be left to die. Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS.

> Today's MS is no different than yesterday's MS I'm not sure that's true, but it is true that MS would have motivation to leverage Github to promote other (licensed) MS software. At a conference years ago, a Microsoft rep told me over beers that almost everything his division did had the ultimate objective of selling more SQL Server licenses. That's why SQL Server is a required component of almost all MS enterprise…

Considering how many Windows admins would prefer it that way, I wouldn't blame them. (Not that I agree)

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Post by sandov »

KyeRussell wrote: post #271
nkkollaw wrote: post #238

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How about Skype, though? People loved Skype so much, it was really a feat to make people hate it.

They undoubtedly did a bad job, but I think that Skype has a lot going against it from external factors anyway. Everyone I know is using FaceTime or Facebook Messenger. The only time I hear Skype anymore is people using it for podcasts. Obvious anecdata but it seems reasonable that services with better device integration (FaceTime) or social graph access (Facebook) would do better in the long run.

Or google hangouts. It's skype but in the web and with an interface that actually works.

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Post by tracker1 »

beenBoutIT wrote: post #141
kosinus wrote: post #28

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I think that's the point. I'm personally worried Microsoft may have a very narrow view of what GitHub is. A lot of tech hosted there doesn't even run on Windows, or isn't even related to software. (legal, political, docs, guides, etc.)

IIRC, internally Microsoft views GNU/Linux and GitHub as Big Satan and Little Satan, respectively.

Depends on who you talk to... I'm pretty sure it's MS developers that drove the integration of git repositories into TFS (many were already using git locally for local branches and commits with TFS repos). The move to GitHub for all MS OSS was probably developer driven too.

The Office team is probably more than happy to not be hamstrung to windows only. Particularly Office 365. Azure has been using a lot of non-ms/windows tech from the start.

I'm sure there's some in the recently re-org that used to be Windows still have issues, but the old guard is largely gone now.

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Post by derrikcurran »

nailer wrote: post #266
sametmax wrote: post #52

The ghost of the skype acquisition would make me panic.

That's Steve Ballmer. He had the reverse-Midas touch, but he's gone now.

Microsoft was actually highly successful under Ballmer. Just not in terms of image or in the consumer-facing world.

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Post by tracker1 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #26
skellera wrote: post #14

Seems like the view here is pretty negative. I feel like most people here haven't worked with Microsoft dev products recently. They're getting better. I guess the crowd here isn't typically in the .NET world.

Particularly with how they interact on GitHub now, it's quite impressive. I've reported issues for docs.microsoft.com, participated in discussions on Visual Basic development, etc. and while there's still definitely that corporate veil to some degree, they're extremely responsive, they're very active in responding to requests and discussing fixes. I generally now hope that whatever Microsoft thing I'm dealing with so…

Even when it leads from GH to internal email chains, they're really good about keeping those on the GH issue in the loop... often from only parallel issues.

Issue filed in node sql driver... azure tech notices the issue, raises to sql team... sql team dev starts replying and working to resolve... recommends patch to upstream project in github... issue resolved.

Oracle would NEVER do something like that. It was actually very impressive, and that's just my one anecdote, and I've seen many others.

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