Really hope these talks fall through and nothing comes of it. Too many bad experiences with Microsoft buying something out, mismanaging it, and it goes down the drain. As much as I love GitHub, I won't be using a Microsoft-owned GitHub for any of my company's work.
To be fair they haven't screwed up LinkedIn. I think they will let GitHub grow with their resources.
Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks
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Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks
#192Why does GitHub need to be acquired at all? Do the costs of running the servers and hosting the free services not cover the revenue from Enterprise users? I believe that any Enterprise users won't notice even a doubling of the subscription fee, if GitHub really needs it. I don't know why there needs to be more than a handful of employees working at github, just don't break what's already there!
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows 10's forced updates and telemetry say otherwise.
Telemetry is bad, forced updates is not.
1. Updates can introduce breaking changes.
2. Windows will restart the computer to update, potentially interrupting processes.
3. Users should have freedom to use software in the way that they choose, and not have actions forced on them by the software.
I understand that many windows users are far from power users and the forced updates provide security updates. My point of view is anyone willing to give up liberty for security will receive neither.
Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks
#194E3 -- Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. Stems from at least the 1990's. The MS behavior as opposed to the term can be argued to pre-date that decade. I'll just remind people who may think I'm being old, crotchety, and living in the past, that this has been a repeated pattern of theirs that has resurfaced so often and reliably as to become considered by many to be a core component of MS culture. Repeated including in the f…
Doesn't apply to buying the competition.
Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks
#195Really hope these talks fall through and nothing comes of it. Too many bad experiences with Microsoft buying something out, mismanaging it, and it goes down the drain. As much as I love GitHub, I won't be using a Microsoft-owned GitHub for any of my company's work.
They also killed Danger Mobile.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't think Microsoft has anything to contribute to GitHub. Microsoft has experience handling online code repositories and team services. Azure integration has the potential to improve deployment pipelines for many users. Microsoft has lots of experience doing things at scale, and can potentially find cost reduction maneuvers for Github. Visual Studio integration can bring more users to Github. Cooperate users ar…
Let's not forget that they developed GVFS to support large monorepos.
Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks
#197Really hope these talks fall through and nothing comes of it. Too many bad experiences with Microsoft buying something out, mismanaging it, and it goes down the drain. As much as I love GitHub, I won't be using a Microsoft-owned GitHub for any of my company's work.
If it were maybe 5 years ago I would be horrified, but under Nadella they are a lot less ... Microsoft-y.
The real nightmare is we'll hand it all to Nadella. Microsoft reaches market capture/coercive monopoly. Nadella leaves, a new frontman comes to exploit according to tried-and-true strategies. (Nadella as a response to loss of monopoly, aimed at regaining market dominance)
Acquiring Github fits /perfectly/ into Ballmer-Microsoft's "developers, developers, developers", and the current Visual Studio strategy. This would establish a market-capture-synergy between Internet Explorer / Chakra / Nodejs / Github / Visual Studio / Visual Studio Code / .net / ~Microsoft.
OTOH Github's commitment to maintaining code that competes with Microsoft's products creates an incredible amount of conflict of interest. If Microsoft can pull it off without rejecting the Open Source incumbents, this would benefit their image tremendously.
Github won't be eager to sell, but how's near a gigaM$ sound? This could be a major takeover.
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#198Seems like the view here is pretty negative. I feel like most people here haven't worked with Microsoft dev products recently. They're getting better. I guess the crowd here isn't typically in the .NET world.
I have never seen any good .NET code in the wild. A typical story IMO is to come into a workplace where they are trying to dump legacy .NET systems as soon as possible because they are incredibly brittle. .NET seems to be one of the biggest software scams of all time. Great vendor lock-in though. Visual Studio, MS-SQL, LINQ, Entity framework etc... the only solution is to rewrite everything.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't think Microsoft has anything to contribute to GitHub. Microsoft has experience handling online code repositories and team services. Azure integration has the potential to improve deployment pipelines for many users. Microsoft has lots of experience doing things at scale, and can potentially find cost reduction maneuvers for Github. Visual Studio integration can bring more users to Github. Cooperate users ar…
Let's not forget that they developed GVFS to support large monorepos.