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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by DanBC »

duxup wrote: post #58
zerostar07 wrote: post #28

He's still obliged to respond to that letter. Can't hide like this. (guys, I'm being sarcastic)

Do you think if the complaint went to a government official in the EU they would throw down the hammer on a site that was up for all of a couple days in GDPR time? I have my doubts. I've got a handful of sites (ultimately for portfolio / coding practice type stuff) out there. Honestly it wouldn't take me too much to respond to someone's letter considering the simplicity of the site(s), not that anyone uses them. I al…

No. They're unlikely to do anything. If they did do anything it would be to post a link to current best practice advice.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by oh_sigh »

jimnotgym wrote: post #36
xori wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, you are making work for a person that doesn't monetize the platform you're using. It was service that was offered in good faith, and is now, because of this useless request, not going to be available. Instead they are being forwarded to a service that does monetize their service.

>now, because of this useless request No, it is because of an overreaction to a request. If they are acting in good faith then just reply

How many hours should this person put in to respond to the request?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by reaperducer »

simlevesque wrote: post #12

Does he have any proof that the person is a troll ? From what I read he just assumes it.

I didn't read the whole thing, but the part where the troll says he believes the site is in violation and makes threats but doesn't have any actual proof that there is a violation sounds like a good indication.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by DanBC »

hood_syntax wrote: post #3
hyprCoin wrote: post #2

Overbearing legislation applied by unelected representatives is being abused. If only there were technical solutions provided with an assumption of goodwill instead of 88 pages of mandates without such an assumption.

Assumption of good will is a trap that naive people fall into. If someone can take advantage of something, it will happen.

> If someone can take advantage of something, it will happen.

Who do you think can take advantage here?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by spacebearmakes »

scaryclam wrote: post #4

I'm a little confused. Who is sending compliance requests? If it's not the ico, there's rely no problem. If it is the ico, ask what needs to change. No lawyers required.

The owner of the forum received the "Nightmare letter" [1] which he is legally obligated to respond to, which as an open source project does not have the resources to be able to respond to them.

[1]: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nightmare-letter-subject-acce...

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by hpcjoe »

lghh wrote: post #21
Kiro wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're the reason we can't have nice things. I hope you are proud of yourself. GDPR is great but will be ruined by people like you.

Isn't that the point of GDPR?

Honestly, laws like this give rise to the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I am not anti-gdpr. I am quite concerned about the side effects on the small guys. Its obvious that this law was targeted at larger companies. But its also obvious that it massively increases risk profiles for innocuous behavior.

This is a problem. And hey, as a person in the US, I have no representation to help address my concerns over the validity/applicability of the law.

I am not a fan of that.

Then again, I also don't like it when we do this to others. FATCA is an example of this, where US citizens seeking banking services were denied services due to the implied risk to the bank from non-compliance. They generally don't have much recourse either.

Extra territorial impacts are the result of bad laws. I like that GDPR gives control back to the users. I dislike that it opens up such a massive legal attack surface as to make things like running a forum dangerous.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

scaryclam wrote: post #4

I'm a little confused. Who is sending compliance requests? If it's not the ico, there's rely no problem. If it is the ico, ask what needs to change. No lawyers required.

The forum owner wasn't getting "compliance requests" he was receiving "subject data access requests".

Those requests can be:

- Please give me all my data

- Please delete all my data

- Please stop doing things (processing) my data

Or some mix of all the above. A site owner (controller) has 30 days from receiving such a request to respond or the person making the request can report them to their Supervisory Authority (ICO is the UK Supervisory Authority, each country in the EU has their own).

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Post by eximius »

amyjess wrote: post #42
weberc2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does GDPR affect people in other countries with no interest in doing business in Europe? If I host a forum in the US and you ask me to remove your posts and I tell you where to stick it, what legal consequences might I face? Erm, asking for a friend.

As much as I dislike Donald Trump, I am willing to hold my nose here and suggest encouraging the Trump Administration to go full MAGA and direct Congress to pass laws explicitly stating that no foreign judgements or fines may be enforced on US citizens.

I think we understand where you're coming from, but as written this is incredibly ignorant. You're essentially rejecting all international law (copyright, patent, tax, etc).
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