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Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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post #10

I've been sending all kinds of companies a request of my data. Everyone that keeps sending me mails without me knowing why, I just sent them a nice request to give me a copy of my data. After that, I request them to delete it all :)

You're the reason we can't have nice things. I hope you are proud of yourself. GDPR is great but will be ruined by people like you.

Isn't that the point of GDPR?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#22
post #2

Overbearing legislation applied by unelected representatives is being abused. If only there were technical solutions provided with an assumption of goodwill instead of 88 pages of mandates without such an assumption.

Assumption of good will is a trap that naive people fall into. If someone can take advantage of something, it will happen.

Completely agree in general. It's a probability thing, given enough traffic all possible events happen. That said I do not understand how these mandates protect anyone.

The bad actors are still going to be bad and lie about it, the honest actors just got burdened with some of the worst legislation in recent history without it even coming from our elected officials.

It's dangerous and I don't care for having to backtrack through years worth of projects in use and figure out how they can each be GDPR compliant. It's a tax on creators time and is imo one of the worst possible things legislators can do to an emerging space (as all software is).

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#23
post #10

I've been sending all kinds of companies a request of my data. Everyone that keeps sending me mails without me knowing why, I just sent them a nice request to give me a copy of my data. After that, I request them to delete it all :)

You're the reason we can't have nice things. I hope you are proud of yourself. GDPR is great but will be ruined by people like you.

We've had thousands of companies for years and years using every trick in the book to get people on their mailing lists and collect data about them, but now that users have the right to do something about it, that makes them the assholes?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#25
post #11

People asking to exercise their rights on their own private information are not trolls.

In this case, you are making work for a person that doesn't monetize the platform you're using. It was service that was offered in good faith, and is now, because of this useless request, not going to be available.

Instead they are being forwarded to a service that does monetize their service.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#26
post #18
post #6

Well, if the owner of the forum is receiving request e.g. to delete accounts or to disclose what data is recorded about someone, why not just comply with the request? What's the big deal?

From one of his responses in the link "I do appreciate the links. The gdpr documentation is quite long and I lack the domain expertise to read and comprehend the document in full. Perhaps this is cultural, since the United States is a very litigious society, but I would not feel comfortable accepting liability for gdpr compliance without consulting an attorney. It is also unclear how I am expected to respond to DPA e…

I think you are right about one thing, the misreading of European law that comes from living in a litigious society. Just act in good faith and GDPR will not bite.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#27
post #17
post #6

Well, if the owner of the forum is receiving request e.g. to delete accounts or to disclose what data is recorded about someone, why not just comply with the request? What's the big deal?

If I ran a forum for a number of years, and a person decided to close their account, that'd be fine. But if they then said that I need to remove _all of their posts_, that's really shitty. It would destroy the usefulness of a forum.

How does GDPR affect people in other countries with no interest in doing business in Europe? If I host a forum in the US and you ask me to remove your posts and I tell you where to stick it, what legal consequences might I face?

Erm, asking for a friend.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#29

I'm a little confused. Who is sending compliance requests? If it's not the ico, there's rely no problem. If it is the ico, ask what needs to change. No lawyers required.

> No lawyers required.

Phrases like this just sound weird to me. If there's a risk that someone could sue you over something, from a business perspective I have always been taught that you avoid it, period, until you get a lawyer.

I wonder if this is a cultural difference between the US and EU? Might explain some of the different reactions people have had to the legislation.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

#30
post #2

Overbearing legislation applied by unelected representatives is being abused. If only there were technical solutions provided with an assumption of goodwill instead of 88 pages of mandates without such an assumption.

Legislation is usually applied by unellected people. Judicial independence is usually seen as a good thing. Perhaps you mean that the law was enacted by unellected people, which is also incorrect of course? So now I don't see your point at all?

I'm not in the EU but must comply to their regulation.

The internet at it's base abstraction is a borderless medium without regard to locality. Imposing legislation by user region is a dangerous precedent as each region can now impose fee-seeking legislation on internet companies.

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