I'm glad 4chan is still here. To me, it feels like it's the only thing that's still from the internet for the internet. A site that doesn't want to make a profit from you. It's purpose is to share information.
4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
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Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
/prog/ used to have an incredible amount of good discussion about programming. The perfect blend of memery to break the monotony with the perfect amount of puzzles and challenges and debate to keep it stimulating. RIP
/g/ still has daily programming threads
I'm aware, thanks! :)
Several reasons I don't use /g/:
* I don't want to look at images.
* I don't want to search for the threads I want, they should all be in one board, that's the whole point.
* The fact that /prog/ was killed in the first place when a textboard like it couldn't POSSIBLY be accounting for much bandwidth anyways is proof enough that 4chan wanted to appeal to a wider range of users. I took the hint.
* Finally, the type of users that use /g/ are not the people I want to have discussions with anyways, even if it's programming-related. Lots of /prog/ users only used /prog/, back before it was killed.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You seem to believe that folks can just ignore being called the n-word day-in and day-out as if it doesn't really affect them. They can't? Almost no matter who you are, somebody somewhere is musing about your death, if you can't handle that in words, I doubt you could live much, regardless of your identifiable characteristics.
> if you can't handle that in words, I doubt you could live much, regardless of your identifiable characteristics. I really cannot wrap my mind around the lack of empathy required to say "if you can't handle it" to people being called racist slurs. I presume you have never been called a racist slur. I presume you have never been demonized for your skin color - how can you even begin to know what that's like? Ignoring…
What's ironic here is how conservative your position is: defending the status quo that the n-word must reflexively provoke outrage. People are imploring you to accept that times are changing and the word is being disassociated from hate, yet you're sticking to the 40 year old definition because "that's just how it always was".
Doesn't that remind you of something?
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#94> Yet this cannot last. At 15 years old, 4chan has reached adolescence. Up till now, trolls—children—have been in control. It’s not so funny anymore. After all, even the lost boys had to grow up. Just because one can write that it cannot last doesn't make it so. Putting 4chan in terms of "human age" and development does little to quantify anything. Facebook is 14 and Twitter is 12 and that doesn't say anything about…
> Someone seems inclined to still pay for the servers It kind of seems like a tradeoff between creating a focal point where that kind of individual can congregate (keeping them away from 'normal people') and maintaining a cesspool where that kind of individual breeds. Depending on what's actually happening (and even figuring that out would be an interesting research project) other major sites might even be bankrollin…
4chan is paid for by its users through the 4chan pass and through advertisers, both companies and individuals. It is most likely barely more than solvent or losing money. 4chan's funding isn't a secret that needs to be investigated.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> using 4chan and ignore the crap you don't care about. Can you even imagine using 4chan as a woman or a black man? Like not only in real life do you have to deal with people being racist as hell, but hey here's this forum that's entirely shameless about it too. You seem to believe that folks can just ignore being called the n-word day-in and day-out as if it doesn't really affect them. The only people who can go to…
If you look at my comment history I've made this exact point about politics. I agree with you. 4chan as a whole isn't any more racist than any other forum. The boards are separated by topics just like reddit for example. My purpose behind my comment was simply saying if you avoid the parts you don't like (exactly how you do on the internet in general, stormfront is a thing), you don't experience that toxicity. I rare…
I see what you mean. But minorities always just "ignore it" - but that doesn't mean it doesn't affect them. It's how folks are frequently taught to cope. Even if you're staying in more of the "safe" boards, I imagine you're always worried that someone you're interacting with doesn't.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Traffic has probably been at stable levels for years, while the price of traffic has fallen. Absolutely not! Please take this the wrong way, but I don't see how an old friend could have not noticed the MASSIVE increase in traffic (and the problems it brought). Here's some official 2005-2013 traffic statistics from the 10 years anniversary panel I compiled just to prove you wrong: https://i.4cdn.org/s4s/1527869817275…
The stats - Incredible how anaecdotal observation and recall differs. Bias too: Perhaps I'm not viewing the site as a whole and new boards, increased linking, whatever, thanks for stats. Old friend - Certainly. The fact the idean of anon is default (though optional) means each post can be besed on it's on value / meritocrious as it carries no internet points of the 'owner'. Anarchy, but the negative that term often b…
Yes, that's actually very interesting to me, since I've never heard that from anyone before.
Do you happen to have a small secluded place for a homeboard? Are you /jp/ or something like that?
I've noticed over the years that the bigger a board grows (see /b/, /pol/, /v/) the worst the quality and serious discussion gets, and the more funposting there is.
Every year people complain that their boards are getting worse, part of it is just those people growing older, but the other part is the community becoming larger, different, and noticeably more mainstream.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
/pol/ is also filled with black nationalists, like NOI/Farrakhan supporters. That's the enigma of 4chan is literally everybody from every group is posting there instead of censorship that ensures only one ideology. By 'ignore what doesn't interest you', I assume that means don't visit the containment boards filled with rampant racism and trolling, you won't find holocaust denial or persistent racist threads on the ot…
And because there are black nationalists, the experience of white users of the site and black users of the site are exactly the same? I am simply saying that if you're black, you're affected by the discourse on 4chan much differently than you would be if you are white. A few black nationalists is a lot different than the sea of n-word use, and it affects folks much, much differently.
Not every black user of 4chan is North American though, I assume it doesn't affect them because they post there regularily. Israelis also routinely post there despite it being a cesspool of anti-semitism. Again it's akin to discord chat groups. There's racist chat groups run by neo-nazis and there's moderated groups that ban for racism.
There was also that Shia LeBouf incident, where black and hispanic members of /pol/ from NYC showed up to disrupt his political performance art thing he was live streaming. These people exist, contrary to our political assumptions, the world is a stange place.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#98Summary: grouchy suburban dad who realizes he isn't cool anymore shakes fist at rebellious neighborhood kids, shouting that they need to grow up. Why is it that whenever a mainstream site like Wired pumps out an article looking down their noses at some "problematic" online community, it's immediately obvious that the author has never been part of said community and instead bases their overly simplistic views on an ho…
Purely optimized for clicks and shares. Also, any amount of perceived approval of something controversial will get a nuclear reaction from Twitter demanding the author's job or going to the advertisers saying "look at this stuff that they are okay with!"
It's on the font page of HN so clearly it works
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you look at my comment history I've made this exact point about politics. I agree with you. 4chan as a whole isn't any more racist than any other forum. The boards are separated by topics just like reddit for example. My purpose behind my comment was simply saying if you avoid the parts you don't like (exactly how you do on the internet in general, stormfront is a thing), you don't experience that toxicity. I rare…
I see what you mean. But minorities always just "ignore it" - but that doesn't mean it doesn't affect them. It's how folks are frequently taught to cope. Even if you're staying in more of the "safe" boards, I imagine you're always worried that someone you're interacting with doesn't.
Why would anyone posting on an anonymous imageboard be worried about people making negative comments towards them, anonymously? Your fellow anonymous users only know about you what you choose to share in your posts, and unlike reddit or HN, you don't have a persistent identity.
Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager
#100How many of these anti-4chan articles are written by people that regularly use it? I'm guessing zero. 4chan is an interesting site and has better discussion from a broad userbase than reddit or here. Plenty of interesting projects were born out of 4chan, particularly /g/ but the other boards have created valuable things for humans in general, not just internet culture. The positives IMO come from the whole "FREE SPEE…
> using 4chan and ignore the crap you don't care about. Can you even imagine using 4chan as a woman or a black man? Like not only in real life do you have to deal with people being racist as hell, but hey here's this forum that's entirely shameless about it too. You seem to believe that folks can just ignore being called the n-word day-in and day-out as if it doesn't really affect them. The only people who can go to…
Where is this idea coming from that black or women are somehow special cases that need to be handled with care [0]? I know the answer is "America", but plenty of people around the world have been killed, enslaved, displaced, humiliated and any number of things. And every one of them, whether they are from Scandinavia or Africa, will get insulted and ignore it or leave.
Some of the best memes come from India and they get plenty of abuse on the site...