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The birthrate in the U.S. is the lowest it’s been in 30 years

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I know how obvious this connection probably seems to everyone, but I find it so fascinating that birthrates can be such a good indicator of economic health. Hopefully Millenial birthrates are only delayed, not completely reduced by the economic challenges they face.

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There were a couple points in there that could, may, should have been left on the cutting room floor.

Some good points were made however.

Social Security in its original Ponzi-Schemesque form will end up even worse for wear with declining birthrates. (Not saying Social Security is bad in concept, but it only works in times of sharp population growth, and even then, banking on the youth to carry you just because seems squicky to many ).

The observation of millenials being reluctant to have children is also spot on. Many that I have spoken to in the demographic are very much a "lost generation". They've seen parent's and elder's life savings disappear.

They have a harder and harder time adjusting to a world that seems specifically tuned to resist and feed off of them. See financial product/debt product proliferation.

It's harder to find opportunity when one has an additional complication of digital footprint to manage with a dearth of interest in anyone older than them willing or interested in making sure the past engraved on the net doesn't mark them for life.

The hamfisted "feminist" overtones aside, the article makes a chilling point. Long cycle economic predation and the social pressures to avoid debt first and foremost are an effective suicide switch at the population scale. An entire generation has been shaped by these pressures, and with no relief in sight, a drastic shift in values may be needed to avoid a grievous societal destabilization.

Interesting times indeed.

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There were a couple points in there that could, may, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Some good points were made however. Social Security in its original Ponzi-Schemesque form will end up even worse for wear with declining birthrates. (Not saying Social Security is bad in concept, but it only works in times of sharp population growth, and even then, banking on the youth to carry you just because seems…

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There were a couple points in there that could, may, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Some good points were made however. Social Security in its original Ponzi-Schemesque form will end up even worse for wear with declining birthrates. (Not saying Social Security is bad in concept, but it only works in times of sharp population growth, and even then, banking on the youth to carry you just because seems…

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> I avoid Vox articles due to the unsubtle feminist ideologies

> (...) recent cringe Vox interview with Jordan Peterson that kept trying put words in his mouth

> (...) I see no future for myself outside of being someone's mortgage hound or alimony sugar daddy.

That escalated quickly!

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There were a couple points in there that could, may, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Some good points were made however. Social Security in its original Ponzi-Schemesque form will end up even worse for wear with declining birthrates. (Not saying Social Security is bad in concept, but it only works in times of sharp population growth, and even then, banking on the youth to carry you just because seems…

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If anyone else was curious what SMV means in this comment it seems to be Sexual Market Value.

It’s a term used amongst red pill/incel and such communities.

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> I avoid Vox articles due to the unsubtle feminist ideologies > (...) recent cringe Vox interview with Jordan Peterson that kept trying put words in his mouth > (...) I see no future for myself outside of being someone's mortgage hound or alimony sugar daddy. That escalated quickly!

I feel this too. Most of my cis male friends won't date people that will make less money than them. I know I won't.

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> I avoid Vox articles due to the unsubtle feminist ideologies > (...) recent cringe Vox interview with Jordan Peterson that kept trying put words in his mouth > (...) I see no future for myself outside of being someone's mortgage hound or alimony sugar daddy. That escalated quickly!

It is on the mind of every young person. It is becoming more common to do everything on your own. You cannot rely on a good partner to share and build a life together with. The traditional routes and social contract are broken. That is why many young people are listening to lectures on youtube and voted for nationalism. But hey, downvote me into oblivion and ridicule me, I could care less. Just sharing my insights and truths. Perhaps turning men into non toxic soy boys who salivate at being feminist activists will turn America into utopia for all.

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If anyone else was curious what SMV means in this comment it seems to be Sexual Market Value. It’s a term used amongst red pill/incel and such communities.

It was also used by the pick up artist communities before that too. Basically anyone who studies modern human sexuality. But hey, write me off as a Incel or whatever you want. All non feminist men are toxic, right?
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