Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

Post by Max_aaa » Thu, May 31, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

radarsat1 wrote: post #35

Proven wrote: post #2

Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so do Ubuntu and CentOS... not to the extent Google and FB do it.

> MS collects user data but so do Ubuntu and CentOS... not to the extent Google and FB do it. They're working on it though. I just installed Windows 10 for the first time on a brand new computer I bought. I was shocked to discover that I could not make an account on my own personal machine without "logging in" to a Microsoft service either with an existing or new email address. I looked up tutorials to skip that step…

Post by Grazester » Thu, May 31, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

maxxxxx wrote: post #98

Analemma_ wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN in general has an info bubble problem, where it looks to them like Microsoft is dying because trendy Bay Area startups all use Slack and Google Docs. But in the rest of the industry, Microsoft is huge and, if anything, getting stronger over time and not weaker. Microsoft products that HN has never even heard of, like Dynamics and Host Integration Server, still make billions in revenue.

Yeah. Uncool companies like MS, Intel and Oracle have shown repeatedly that they can survive and thrive in times of complete paradigm changes. This is something Google and Facebook still have to demonstrate.

Post by skybrian » Thu, May 31, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

oculusthrift wrote: post #70

skybrian wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a long time since Google just had one product. I'm sure anyone here could name a dozen. Why say things that everyone knows to be false?

Look at this chart and you’ll see what he means: http://ritholtz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cotd52602.png you really can’t compare them to microsoft

Post by petra » Thu, May 31, 2018, 6:08 PM UTC

lalos wrote: post #114

As a long term investor, I'm worried with Google. All the bills are paid by ad revenue, a single horse. Then there is this bubble of claims that they have the best engineers and work environment yet this has not produced any other business equivalent to the ad business. Then they have a reputation of creating awesome tools that then get killed in years, enterprise customers don't like this unpredictability. Microsoft…

Post by screye » Thu, May 31, 2018, 6:08 PM UTC

jobu wrote: post #18

lkrubner wrote: post #3

I'm puzzled why "Proven"s comment is dead? What they wrote seems accurate. There is no reason why this comment should be downvoted, and certainly no reason why the comment should be dead. This is what they wrote: Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so d…

While I agree with most of your points, this one seems arguable: > Microsoft Excel remains the default lingua franca of business. Google Docs and Spreadsheets has not replaced Office. Google Docs, Sheets and Slides have taken over the education market from elementary school through college, and for many businesses Google's offerings have become interchangeable with Microsoft's. Outlook and Excel still have a strong h…