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Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

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Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

#102

From the original article and chart (not the current linked site): > "California has a labor force of 19.3 million compared to the labor force in the UK of 33.8 million (World Bank data here). Amazingly, it required a labor force 75% larger (and 14.5 million more people) in the UK to produce the same economic output last year as California! ... Further, California as a separate country would have been the 5th largest…

That shows the power of immigration. I'm not even talking about immigration from outside the US, though that's significant too. California has such high GDP per capita because it draws well educated people from the rest of the US. If it was an independent country, it couldn't do that so easily.

I think it just means CA has managed to outsource more labour than the UK. Think of all the workers in China making Apple phones, or all the Uber drivers in the world forking over a chunk of their business to people in CA. It would be interesting to see the results if we could compute a per capita GDP that was actually divided among all the workers that support a given region's economy, regardless of whether they live in that region.

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

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holy cow america is mighty

This is the saddest part, America is mighty but that doesn't translate into the life quality of its citizens at all.

I mean, it clearly does. The US is in the top 10 in terms of Human Development Index, above the U.K., France, Spain, and Italy. Germany is the only large, economically and geographically diverse European country that beats the U.S.

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

#104

WOW... If you add up the population of the "similar GDP" countries its well over a a BILLION people.

That's what free movement of capital without free movement of people does. Military and economic dominance means USA has a lot of the capital and keeps out a lot of the people. That money is coming from somewhere, like e.g. Africa where you see the opposite trend:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/africa-subsi...

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

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post #2

holy cow america is mighty

This is the saddest part, America is mighty but that doesn't translate into the life quality of its citizens at all.

Where did you get the idea that Americans don't have a high quality of life?

If this is an outside looking in scenario, I'll just say that I'm amused and disappointed by international press coverage of the US whenever I travel abroad.

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#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mighty doesn’t mean everyone gets free stuff via government redistribution programs. And maybe one can see that this is the reason America is “mighty.” We attract and retain the best of the whole world, who come here because they are tired of senseless redistribution campaigns by the have-nots of the world. Not to mention freedom generally, which is why my family came to the US: we were not seeking economic opportuni…

Well, this isn't the 80s anymore, no one talks of Russia anymore. What I meant was based on looking at European countries like Sweden and Finland or even France. Also, I am not saying the U.S. is a horrible place to live in, I am just saying that it has the potential to be more liveable for all citizens, not just the very "best".

> Well, this isn't the 80s anymore, no one talks of Russia anymore.

What now?

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

#108
post #36

It would also be interesting to see this chart with GDP per capita.

I won't do the map, but here are the reasonable direct comparisons in a list. Where names are repeated it's because there are no other high enough unique matches. It'd be difficult to do a nice map, because there aren't enough comparables for all the states.

Updated to 2017 figures and rounded (for the US figures):

https://i.imgur.com/u0FdDUt.png

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homeless people don't die off seasonally due to weather in California.

Do you believe that exposure to weather is killing a statistically significant number of people in the UK?

Its for sure a motivator for not being homeless. How many homeless in greenland / laponia ?

Re: Map: US States Renamed as Countries with Similar GDPs

#110
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

California...and the West Coast of the U.S. is an interesting place in that it's geographically divided from the rest of the country by a couple of major mountain ranges and large deserts. In addition, something like almost 50% of the state is unusable federal land (national parks, military bases, etc.) Despite this, it's one of the major agricultural producers in the world due to it's variety of climate zones and lo…

I looked up the stats on public vs. private land in each state and was totally surprised to see that your 50% figure is correct (actually 52% on that chart I was looking at). That said, much of that land falls into national and state parks, monuments, recreational areas, forests, lakes and reservoirs, all of which make the state a more pleasant place to live and recreate in so I'm perfectly fine with that.

I feel much the same. A big chunk of Oregon is federally owned, and a non-trivial amount of that is the national forests directly east of Portland. The idea of that all being privately owned makes me shudder. I love being able to go out and enjoy the wilderness without having it chained off an inaccessible to people not rich enough to buy a chunk for themselves.
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