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Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by cryptoz »

craigsmansion wrote: post #28
skybrian wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a long time since Google just had one product. I'm sure anyone here could name a dozen. Why say things that everyone knows to be false?

Depends on the point of view really. Google's single product: you.

I don't understand this. I spent $100 on a Google VR headset recently. It has no tracking or weird crap that would count me as a "product". What are you talking about?

Google has a lot of products, period. Many of them have ASPs in the hundreds of dollars. Google sells real products.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by NicoJuicy »

lkrubner wrote: post #3

I'm puzzled why "Proven"s comment is dead? What they wrote seems accurate. There is no reason why this comment should be downvoted, and certainly no reason why the comment should be dead. This is what they wrote: Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so d…

In use both companies products.

Os = Windows en android. Docs en Office Chromecast Xbox 360+ kinect Google Azure Google cloud for maps api

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by hardtke »

Proven wrote: post #2

Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so do Ubuntu and CentOS... not to the extent Google and FB do it.

Search ads do not require the collection of user data beyond the search query to be profitable. it can be argued that they don’t violate user privacy.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by metalliqaz »

lkrubner wrote: post #3

I'm puzzled why "Proven"s comment is dead? What they wrote seems accurate. There is no reason why this comment should be downvoted, and certainly no reason why the comment should be dead. This is what they wrote: Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so d…

And in addition to the desktop offerings, they have Azure which has decent corporate penetration, and Xbox which fairly successful in homes. They really dropped the ball on mobile, but perhaps they will claw some back through Surface.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by blanderman »

jobu wrote: post #18
lkrubner wrote: post #3

I'm puzzled why "Proven"s comment is dead? What they wrote seems accurate. There is no reason why this comment should be downvoted, and certainly no reason why the comment should be dead. This is what they wrote: Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so d…

While I agree with most of your points, this one seems arguable: > Microsoft Excel remains the default lingua franca of business. Google Docs and Spreadsheets has not replaced Office. Google Docs, Sheets and Slides have taken over the education market from elementary school through college, and for many businesses Google's offerings have become interchangeable with Microsoft's. Outlook and Excel still have a strong h…

LibreOffice is now an excellent alternative for both business and home use.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by maltalex »

radarsat1 wrote: post #35
Proven wrote: post #2

Simply speaking they actually make more products people like to use. Google essentially has just one, and it’s based on diminishing user privacy to the maximum extent possible. MS collects user data but so do Ubuntu and CentOS... not to the extent Google and FB do it.

> MS collects user data but so do Ubuntu and CentOS... not to the extent Google and FB do it. They're working on it though. I just installed Windows 10 for the first time on a brand new computer I bought. I was shocked to discover that I could not make an account on my own personal machine without "logging in" to a Microsoft service either with an existing or new email address. I looked up tutorials to skip that step…

I’ve installed Windows 10 Pro 1803 on two separate machines in the last month. Both with local accounts.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by mxschumacher »

outside1234 wrote: post #31
golfer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give Google a little more credit. They have 7 separate products with over 1 billion users each [0]. Search, Gmail, Android, Chrome, Maps, Youtube and the Google Play Store. [0]: https://www.popsci.com/google-has-7-products-with-1-billion-...

The stock market doesn't care about users, it cares about profits. Android and Chrome and Google Play are unprofitable.

the data they collect on those platforms feeds back into improving their ad business. It does not make sense to look into "Chrome" as a business in itself.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by [deleted] »

hueving wrote: post #39
Clubber wrote: post #25

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I got rate limited somehow and I can't figure out a way to even know what comment(s) / discussions kicked it off or how to remove it. Almost 5000 karma. Pretty frustrating.

Welcome to the club. You can't remove it on your own. Gonna have to grovel to a mod to convince them you can be trusted with more than 5 comments/day or whatever it is.

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Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by tlarkworthy »

outside1234 wrote: post #31
golfer wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give Google a little more credit. They have 7 separate products with over 1 billion users each [0]. Search, Gmail, Android, Chrome, Maps, Youtube and the Google Play Store. [0]: https://www.popsci.com/google-has-7-products-with-1-billion-...

The stock market doesn't care about users, it cares about profits. Android and Chrome and Google Play are unprofitable.

> Google Play are unprofitable.

???

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/05/app-revenue-climbed-35-per...

$20B in revenue.

Re: Microsoft is now worth more than Alphabet

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Post by Isamu »

>Google’s demotion is undoubtedly only temporary.

I think so, the revenue trend for Google is too strong. Google passed Msft in revenue in FY2016 I believe.

But the public perception around Google has taken some hits, and Microsoft has reformed its public image.

>Still, this is big news for Microsoft who has shifted focus under the leadership of CEO Satya Nadella

Hope so, I've been bullish on Nadella.

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