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Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by bluntfang »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #31
protonimitate wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's great remote work is starting to catch on. I think it could help revitalize a lot of the rural areas just outside of major metro footprints. I am also born and raised New England, NH and ME could also benefit from this type of program (although Portland seems to be more up and coming). There's a lot of really good reasons to escape the Boston bubble, but unfortunately companies are holding tight to brick…

In my experience, proportionally, more smart young people who have the skills for tech work prefer living in cities with other like minded people. So if you want to hire them, you have to be there otherwise someone else will employ them.

Maybe confirmation bias?

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by mikestew »

to_bpr wrote: post #22
zellyn wrote: post #10

$10,000 is less than what Silicon Valley firms will cover just for relocation. I guess if you're thinking of doing it anyway, it could push you over the edge. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>$10,000 is less than what Silicon Valley firms will cover just for relocation Not everyone wants to work for SV firm, much less in SV.

Outside of SV, $10K doesn't cover what Microsoft paid to move us to Redmond...20 years ago. Apples, and oranges, and other fruits in our comparison, I realize. Point is, unless one were planning on moving there anyway, $10K doesn't go a long way toward offsetting the expense of picking up and moving across the country, or even just up the road from Boston.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by notyourday »

nraynaud wrote: post #23
vthallam wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fall and Summer are really great! Winter sucks unless you are into skiing.

I have skied in Vermont, don't do that, it's just white ice, any fall can be dangerous.

Vermont and New Hampshire are great to ski in.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by dsr_ »

PaulHoule wrote: post #33

Lots of hills and low population density. I bet it is hard to get good internet in Vermont. Universal access to broadband would matter more than anything else.

It's easy if you live quite close to: Burlington, Rutland, Barre, Montpelier, Winooski, St. Albans

and otherwise a matter of luck.

Those are the top six cities by population, and the top two put together are about the same as my suburb of Boston. St. Albans is about 30 minutes from Burlington and an hour and a bit from Montreal; you can get access to culture and technology, but you'll need to drive.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

DFHippie wrote: post #36
PaulHoule wrote: post #33

Lots of hills and low population density. I bet it is hard to get good internet in Vermont. Universal access to broadband would matter more than anything else.

It depends on where you are. It's fine where I'm standing. If you want to live in a dairy farm at the end of a dirt road you will have problems.

I was at someone's house/trailer a few weeks ago and he had satellite internet. I have no idea what the upload speeds are like, but we spent most of the time watching YouTube videos and it was at least as good as my DSL at home (I live about 10 miles outside town).

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by DFHippie »

toss1 wrote: post #25

Vermont is a wonderful natural bucolic place to live. Unfortunately, I discovered the hard way that the problem they are trying to solve is likely far more intractable than that program. I co-founded a software/networking biz in VT some years ago. We really thought it was great, loved the lifestyle -- e.g., literally step out the door at lunch for a run or mtn bike in the woods, or walking meetings in the fields or w…

Try one of the towns along the southern Connecticut River valley. You're a couple of hours from Boston. You can take the train the NYC. You have urban/college town amenities and culture if you want it. You can walk to nature if you want it. The schools are good. The traffic is good.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

PakG1 wrote: post #12

This is interesting. I'm hearing more and more examples of cities are pulling out more and more stops to attract people. Maybe I was just ignorant about them before. Free land if you move to the Yukon to do farming: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-farming-landrights... And then there's Shenzhen's peacock plan to attract foreign experts for high-tech startups, 6 figures USD for individuals who meet certain c…

There are also states that will pay for your education if you provide services. I had a friend whose MS in nursing was completely paid for by the state in exchange for agreeing to work at a clinic in a low-income neighborhood for 2 years.

She loved the work, the state got a motivated Nurse. Win-win.

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Post by minor3rd »

jnwatson wrote: post #38
nraynaud wrote: post #23

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I have skied in Vermont, don't do that, it's just white ice, any fall can be dangerous.

From the West Coast? Vermont has the best East coast skiing. I’d put it in the bottom quartile of West coast skiing. It isn’t bad at all, but it will never compete with the Rockies.

> Vermont has the best East coast skiing. I’d put it in the bottom quartile of West coast skiing.

Yep. I learned to snowboard on the east coast and when I came out west, I was amazed at how much "better" I was overnight. I really am better now, but it doesn't hurt to have good snow.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

DFHippie wrote: post #46
toss1 wrote: post #25

Vermont is a wonderful natural bucolic place to live. Unfortunately, I discovered the hard way that the problem they are trying to solve is likely far more intractable than that program. I co-founded a software/networking biz in VT some years ago. We really thought it was great, loved the lifestyle -- e.g., literally step out the door at lunch for a run or mtn bike in the woods, or walking meetings in the fields or w…

Try one of the towns along the southern Connecticut River valley. You're a couple of hours from Boston. You can take the train the NYC. You have urban/college town amenities and culture if you want it. You can walk to nature if you want it. The schools are good. The traffic is good.

I lived in one of those towns before moving to Minnesota. It's nice, but not even close to the same thing.

Re: Vermont will cover $10K of expenses for people who move there and work remotely

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Post by eezurr »

I've lived in Burlington, VT for the last two years, having moved from a large city.

The brain drain is real. I am leaving the state soon because I simply cannot relate to people and culture up here. (Note, this is for people who are 35 year olds up here with families who I never met). There's an inverse bell curve of age distribution.

I've discovered slightly above average intelligent people up here think they are much smarter than they are, due to the people/coworkers they are surrounded by. I've only met three highly intelligent people in my two years here. Two of them are also leaving within a year.

It's a shame, because Burlington is easily the most beautiful city I have lived in. Bike trails boarder the lake and outdoor recreation are all within an hour's drive. The produce up here is the best I've had (like wow, can't go back good). The restaurant cuisines up here are diverse and plentiful (although the quality is lacking for some reason). Everything is so green up here. The weather is usually great.

It's a place to retire and maybe raise family, if you can handle the snow. Otherwise, if you're a younger adult with drive and ambition, you will not enjoy your stay.

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