Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by tomc1985 » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

hokkos wrote: post #268

bradlys wrote: post #195

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I think it's okay to some extent but I find that forums definitely are a much better resource and controversial threads or posts in forums don't get buried or hidden by a downvote. Some of the most humorous threads you'll read would have had a -inf rating and thus never seen on reddit. To me, reddit seems a great way for a community to reinforce groupthink. Instances I can think of are forums for motorcycles, cars, p…

Subreddits and forums are fundamentally different. Forums are linear and your are expected to have read all the post to post in one thread. There is also the old members who nag you into not creating a new thread but use the search tool to comment on an old one. There is forum local stars that control the discourse far more than on subreddits, and the photo + footer customization make them more prone starification an…

Reddittors' frequent insistence on no reposts and original content seems to contradict your assertions

I have a bunch of old folders full of funny images that I would love to post but I'm quite sure I will get accused of karma whoring, even though I just want to share funny pictures that are more funny than the current crop of memes

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by jaypeg25 » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

fhood wrote: post #220

bradlys wrote: post #195

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I think it's okay to some extent but I find that forums definitely are a much better resource and controversial threads or posts in forums don't get buried or hidden by a downvote. Some of the most humorous threads you'll read would have had a -inf rating and thus never seen on reddit. To me, reddit seems a great way for a community to reinforce groupthink. Instances I can think of are forums for motorcycles, cars, p…

Don't assume forums are somehow freer of group-think because they are less accessible. Once they get established, the existing user base tends to push out anyone that doesn't agree with their views. Some subreddits are awesome, and some are way less awesome. And much of the best, most informative and technical information out there lives on subreddits. Many people pine for the days when only the most savvy users knew…

Getting rid of anonymity would probably help.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by tomc1985 » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:38 PM UTC

undersuit wrote: post #162

Chathamization wrote: post #140

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> Let's say a new TV show starts airing, and you really like it and want to discuss it more. You can probably bet there's a subreddit for it, and in that community, a ton of people interested in it. Before someone could go to the IMDB forums and discuss it. I think they did the job a lot better - if you found a conversation about a particular episode and wanted to comment on it a few weeks after it was made, you coul…

I didn't know IMDB even had forums. And they're gone.

The discussions on IMDB forums seemed almost universally on-topic and in-depth. I learned a lot about various movies by combing those forums... subreddits do not even come close.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by jgh » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:39 PM UTC

jimmies wrote: post #21

I have recently created a software package and wanted a forum to have my users post "fun" stuff that is not strictly technical since it's sort of a hobby. I have decided that it is way too tedious to host my own forums, so I chose a middle ground that is to create a subreddit. It is working out pretty well. There are be several reasons that hosting a forum/fanclub on Reddit is better than on Facebook. Facebook mandat…

OTOH Reddit also enforces time as a limitation on posts, just on a slightly slower scale than Facebook.

For example "necroposting" isn't really a thing that's possible with a Reddit (or HN) model. Nor are threads that are ongoing for months at a time, which are quite common on traditional forums. I mean you can do it but it has to be mod-sanctioned via pinning.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by catach » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:39 PM UTC

falcon620 wrote: post #254

exelius wrote: post #199

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I know someone who is a mod for a couple major subs and he absolutely does paid placements (he has his own bot network for everything, but being a mod his shill posts don’t get deleted). Mods don’t necessarily use their mod power itself for profit, but knowing how the sub works and what users like is very powerful. So is ignoring obvious upvote botnets because they belong to you or another mod.

The inevitable conclusion I come to: Something like reddit2 should be run by a minimalist apolitical company. They should work on building some kind of democracy in each sub-reddit, based on some factors (where "participation quality" is one important factor). If the users are unhappy, they should be able to call for an election, etc. The reddit2 company should focus primarily on keeping the platform alive and on fig…

Tildes [0] may grow to align with much of what you're looking for here, maybe not.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17103093

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by tomc1985 » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

actsasbuffoon wrote: post #280

undersuit wrote: post #162

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I didn't know IMDB even had forums. And they're gone.

IMDB forums required signing up to even read threads, if memory serves. Every now and then I'd try to figure out where else I'd seen some actor, notice an interesting sounding topic at the bottom of the page, click on it, be told I had to register in order to read, and then get annoyed and leave. Note to companies: Don't do crap like this. Let people lurk. If they like the content then they'll create an account. Forc…

I think IMDB is a good example of why registration is a good thing: discussions on there were of very high quality and I learned a lot about a given movie by combing through them. You would have to have a subreddit for every movie out in order to come close to replicating that experience on Reddit, and it seems registration kept a lot of the riff-raff out.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by yurishimo » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

iamunr wrote: post #9

nielsbot wrote: post #2

The also have the highest "daily time on site" of all the sites on the list by a good amount. (15m vs 10+m for runner-up Facebook) That said, are these numbers reliable? And: Don't a lot of people visit FB via an app? I assume that's not counted here.

Same could be same for Reddit, and their app ecosystem.

And the fact that Reddit has literally dozens of apps across all of the mobile platforms. Having a mostly open API gave 3rd party developers the opportunity to create better interfaces to draw users into using Reddit.

When I first started using Reddit over 6 years ago, it was mostly desktop, but these days, probably 90% of my Reddit usage is mobile because I feel more productive (ironic) using a nicer interface with gesture support for voting and replying.

I would bet that there are a million+ users primarily on 3rd party mobile apps around the world who, if not more.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by swebs » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:41 PM UTC

ryneandal wrote: post #211

narrator wrote: post #125

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Racism, bigotry and misogyny are politics. You perfectly demonstrate my point in that you hold the political aspects above all other aspects in determining the validity of an entire persons life and contribution to society because of the ideas they express. For example, Roseanne making one tweet and ruining her whole career. Reddit doesn't force that sort of political conformity on people.

If you think Roseanne's sins were limited to a single tweet, you're woefully uninformed on the matter. It was the sum of all of her past transgressions, the tweet was merely the straw breaking the camel's back, surprisingly. I would have thought it was the Nazi cookie photoshoot.

The one she, a Jewish woman, did for a Jewish satire magazine?

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by philipkglass » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:43 PM UTC

barryduffman wrote: post #252

davedx wrote: post #246

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> Most Facebook users use the app, not the website Source?

"90% of Facebook’s daily active users access it via mobile" - https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2016/01/27/90-of-facebooks-d... And before you suggest that those users might still be using it on desktop more than on mobile: "Mobile advertising revenue represented approximately 91% of advertising revenue for the first quarter of 2018, up from approximately 85% of advertising revenue in the first quarter of 2017." - http…

That doesn't say whether they are using an app on mobile or just a mobile browser. The app is (was? I haven't used it in ages) a notorious energy-hog that will drain your battery.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Post by 6cd6beb » Wed, May 30, 2018, 9:43 PM UTC

dbasedweeb wrote: post #262

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #250

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Disagree. I think many people want ad-free, untracked experiences. Censorship is a value that different communities have different opinions on, but for some reason often drowns the debate on alternative communities.

The alternative communities often speak for themselves, while the popularity of the mainstream does as well. For a perfect example, look no further than here at Hacker News. The moderation is very active, but here we are enjoying civil conversation because of that moderation. To go back to my previous example, look at Voat, it’s just the worst place to be. I don’t love Reddit, but it has its upsides, such as science,…

>Voat has fulminating hate boners and tumbleweeds, and literally nothing else.

I go there and I can tell you this is categorically false. No one's asking you about "the JQ" in the gardening or painting communities.

There's a lot of VERY unpalatable content on voat because its free speech and censorship policies allow what nearly no one else will, but to claim that's literally all that's present there is just a case of finding what you set out to find regardless of what's there.

Freedom means accepting the existence or discussion of things you don't like.

I think you're wrong when you say people don't want freedom or a no-censorship environment because reddit is popular. What people want and what people will tolerate are very different things.