I avoided Reddit for many years - for no good reason mind you, I just didn't "get" it. Now I do and I am a big fan.
Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
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Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#62Reddit works because it’s anonymous, information-dense and relatively ad-free. Change any one of those three and the user base will abandon you. It’s been Reddit’s dilemma since the beginning: you can’t monetize a toxic user base that has total freedom. Sure you can try to drive away the toxic users, but it turns out that those toxic users are also pretty influential in non-toxic aspects. I’m still skeptical of Reddi…
>Sure you can try to drive away the toxic users, but it turns out that those toxic users are also pretty influential in non-toxic aspects Almost as if toxicity of a person is an integral part of their nature and politically correct spaces are detrimental to the discourse.
Safe spaces tend to turn into echo chambers. By reddit banning everything, they've effectively dictated the narrative that's currently found on the site.
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pseudonymous then. P.s. Facebook doesn't sell data. It sells ads, targeted using the data it holds.
Facebook effectively sells data. It simply doesn't sell raw dumps. The distinction isn't a minor one, but in this context it doesn't much matter. Reddit is unlikely to have the kind of quality data that facebook has to sell - directly, or indirectly.
I would say there are huge privacy differences between selling data and selling the right to advertise to their private data. The latter is quite a bit more privacy secure.
(Note, the Cambridge Analytica stuff happened in 2013 when Facebook was much more open with APIs using their data, since popular demand at the time was for FB to be less of a walled garden)
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#64Reddit is quickly becoming a tool for the majority on the site to suppress minority on the site's opinions. Until a viable solution is created to promote diversity of thought it will always suffer from this problem. Reddit is just as bad of an echo chamber as facebook. Please everyone who read stuff posted on reddit, engage in critical thinking after each article you read.
> Reddit is quickly becoming a toot for [...]
Reddit was always a giant majority opinion circlejerk because of the nature of the voting system. As much as I dislike /r/the_donald, at least it's some working minority subreddit unlike what /r/romney similar subreddits were in the 2012 election.
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#65I’m really surprised Yahoo is #7, I thought Yahoo was all but dead.
Yeah, this is very surprising. Even more surprising is how high Github and Stack Overflow are.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you say the majority vs the minority, what do you mean? edit: To Clarify, which groups are you labeling as such?
It means different things in different contexts. For instance in r/southafrica there is a majority of Afrikaaners on the subreddit despite being a minority (10%) of the country. Any anti-Afrikaaner content is quickly dismissed and downvoted. In r/TwoXChromosome engaging in any discussion on the wage gap as a function of anything other than sexism is met with downvotes. In any majority US subreddit conservative posts…
Yeah, but that's how real societies work. Reddit is just the most recent approximation of those societies, on the internet.
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#67tell me again how Alexa even gets this data these days? I mean ages ago it was thru sketchy browser addon toolbars etc, but seriously how many are installed now? Never really trusted their numbers
Same as how TV and Radio ratings are done - statistically significant sampling of the population via surveys: https://support.alexa.com/hc/en-us/articles/200449744-How-ar...
The global data panel is not surveys of a random population. It's data collected from people using Alexa toolbars. It's highly weighted towards desktop traffic and the kind of people who install toolbars.
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#68Reddit works because it’s anonymous, information-dense and relatively ad-free. Change any one of those three and the user base will abandon you. It’s been Reddit’s dilemma since the beginning: you can’t monetize a toxic user base that has total freedom. Sure you can try to drive away the toxic users, but it turns out that those toxic users are also pretty influential in non-toxic aspects. I’m still skeptical of Reddi…
> Reddit works because it’s anonymous, information-dense and relatively ad-free. Reddit is none of those now. It's not anonymous ( they track your identity and feed it to the government ). You may be "anonymous" to fellow users, but not anonymous to authorities. It isn't information dense. It's propaganda dense. Almost all the content there now is government, media, ngo, etc propaganda. As for ads, check out the vide…
I disagree wholeheartedly.
> You may be "anonymous" to fellow users, but not anonymous to authorities. True, but this only matters to a very small percentage of its user base. A vast majority of people who use Reddit don't know or don't care about data collection. They only care if their friend/coworker/family can ID them from what they post.
>Reddit is 90% government, politics and new propaganda and 20% ads... The front page/top posts, maybe. 90% of the content doesn't reach the top of /r/all though. And I don't know if I consider what is popular/part of the echo chamber as an 'ad'.
>Do you really think reddit in unprofitable? Profitable or not, what's the difference? They've maintained a relatively ad free experience and don't expect you to 'pay to play'. Content isn't pay-walled. Yes they've made cosmetic changes to shift towards a more 'social-media' style experience, but the changes are not that bad and haven't drastically changed the user experience.
>Any garden variety forum is better than reddit. This is personal and can't be claimed with any objectivity. You may find that certain nice forums offer you more value, personally, but that doesn't apply to everyone.
In my experience, whatever shortcomings Reddit has are greatly outweighed by the information and entertainment I've received.
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#69Why is Yahoo so far up the list? Do they have anything good anymore?
Mail, for one. People are very tied to their email address and don't like changing it.
Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pseudonymous then. P.s. Facebook doesn't sell data. It sells ads, targeted using the data it holds.
Facebook effectively sells data. It simply doesn't sell raw dumps. The distinction isn't a minor one, but in this context it doesn't much matter. Reddit is unlikely to have the kind of quality data that facebook has to sell - directly, or indirectly.
> Reddit is unlikely to have the kind of quality data that facebook has to sell - directly, or indirectly.
It's a different kind of data. Spez claims to know his user's "dark secrets" and that can be an ad-tech advantage for Reddit. [1]
[1] https://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2016/05/30/reddit-knows-y...