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Lobotomizing Gnome

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Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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It is a bit of controversal article. There is need for 2 applications a terminal and a browser. Why do you need gnome for that?

> Why do you need gnome for that?

From the article:

– laptop to work correctly when connecting it to external displays or projectors

– first class support for high-DPI displays

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

#32

Open-source desktops are never perfect for anyone, but everyone expects them to be. For everyone who says they are too bloated, someone else says they are too spartan. That's probably why there are so many of them. I would expect working on Gnome (or KDE or Cinnamon or Mate or XFCE or LXDE, the list goes on) to be a thankless task. You try to please everybody and yet please nobody. The imperfections of Linux desktops…

> For everyone who says they are too bloated, someone else says they are too spartan.

Sometimes it can even be the same person depending on their needs.

On my coding laptop I swear by i3, it's fast, simple and powerful. Everything is just a keystroke away. On my entertainment machine though (TV, music and games) I find gnome much better because friends can use it and these tasks are better handled with a mouse.

This is the fundamental problem with convergence as well, different devices have different use cases and you can't make one person happy all the time.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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I recently switched to Linux (from Windows 10 - forced upgrade took 45' in the middle of an extremely important moment) Debian netinstall + Mate desktop (Gnome 2/3 extension?) I expected to switch back within a week. Surprisingly, I love it. After a few tweaks and Nvidia drivers installed, it's way better than I expected. Super fast, minimal, and no annoyances. Linux desktop really has improved in the last 20 years,…

Wait ~6 months, and you will encounter a case where simple package update will cost you more than that 45 minutes ;)

You are correct, but Windows and OS X cost me more time in the end because I'm unfamiliar with them.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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I recently switched to Linux (from Windows 10 - forced upgrade took 45' in the middle of an extremely important moment) Debian netinstall + Mate desktop (Gnome 2/3 extension?) I expected to switch back within a week. Surprisingly, I love it. After a few tweaks and Nvidia drivers installed, it's way better than I expected. Super fast, minimal, and no annoyances. Linux desktop really has improved in the last 20 years,…

Wait ~6 months, and you will encounter a case where simple package update will cost you more than that 45 minutes ;)

Yep. If you want the "Linux experience" these days you have to move to BSD.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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post #17
post #3

I recently switched to Linux (from Windows 10 - forced upgrade took 45' in the middle of an extremely important moment) Debian netinstall + Mate desktop (Gnome 2/3 extension?) I expected to switch back within a week. Surprisingly, I love it. After a few tweaks and Nvidia drivers installed, it's way better than I expected. Super fast, minimal, and no annoyances. Linux desktop really has improved in the last 20 years,…

Wait ~6 months, and you will encounter a case where simple package update will cost you more than that 45 minutes ;)

Would you elaborate? I have never had that problem with Ubuntu based distros.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

#38
post #20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait ~6 months, and you will encounter a case where simple package update will cost you more than that 45 minutes ;)

Maybe, but it's never going to force you to reboot to install some shovelware that you don't want and can't opt out of.

Migration of many distros to systemd forced many people to do exactly that ;)

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

#39

Open-source desktops are never perfect for anyone, but everyone expects them to be. For everyone who says they are too bloated, someone else says they are too spartan. That's probably why there are so many of them. I would expect working on Gnome (or KDE or Cinnamon or Mate or XFCE or LXDE, the list goes on) to be a thankless task. You try to please everybody and yet please nobody. The imperfections of Linux desktops…

I tried to switch to Linux for philosophical and customization reasons. Found it nearly impossible to configure stuff reliably and such it wont crash in new interesting ways. For example: Create a new keyboard layout and have it appear in KDE keyboard settings. Good luck. Input Manager for macOS: done.

It's interesting how different people can have completely opposite experience. I've modified my Microsoft keyboard that zoom slider works as Spotify control buttons play/stop/next. I doubt I would be able to achieve something like this in macOS or Windows. It works all the time, super reliably.

https://gist.github.com/mauron85/5f4b640aa4e5e968e0496ac5a08...

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

#40

The author wants to remove JavaScript from their desktop and does this by disabling all extensions in the hope that it will also disable Gnomes JavaScript engine. What the author does not appear to understand is that extensions are written in JavaScript because Gnome shell is written in JavaScript. Gnome works very well for my workflow, and I find much of the "bloat" to be quite useful in day to day usage, but can un…

I don't think Gnome is bloated from a feature sense (they keep removing features in fact) its just horrifically bloated from an efficiency sense, it could be orders of magnitude faster than it currently is. It chugs and judders on a first gen i5!
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