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Lobotomizing Gnome

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Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by yani »

DocTomoe wrote: post #10
yani wrote: post #8

It is a bit of controversal article. There is need for 2 applications a terminal and a browser. Why do you need gnome for that?

I'm using i3. I still keep Gnome around, because from time to time I need to hold presentations, and randomly appearing and disappearing monitors (=beamers) is not something i3 deals with gracefully.

I started with i3 but moved to bspwm. There is not much difference between the two and it is all about configuration and what is easier to setup. Multiple monitors is something that is always a problem in my experience. It is great that gnome deals properly with this issue for you.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by yani »

gaius wrote: post #19
yani wrote: post #8

It is a bit of controversal article. There is need for 2 applications a terminal and a browser. Why do you need gnome for that?

Right, mwm would do perfectly and it’s what 25 years old now? Just getting back into Motif myself, love it.

There plenty of options. The wealth of Linux ecosystem

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by philliphaydon »

keyle wrote: post #3

I recently switched to Linux (from Windows 10 - forced upgrade took 45' in the middle of an extremely important moment) Debian netinstall + Mate desktop (Gnome 2/3 extension?) I expected to switch back within a week. Surprisingly, I love it. After a few tweaks and Nvidia drivers installed, it's way better than I expected. Super fast, minimal, and no annoyances. Linux desktop really has improved in the last 20 years,…

Spent 2 weeks using Budgie Ubuntu in virtual box, put it as my main desktop at home on the weekend. It really has improved a lot.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by zaarn »

I've tried to use Gnome a lot, it's IMO a great desktop but it also has problems. Personally, I've simply been sitting on XFCE, despite wanting to switch to Wayland a long time ago merely because XFCE has been proven less resource intensive on both laptop and desktop...

I do hope there will be a wayland-based XFCE-like Desktop for Linux at some point...

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by JamesMcMinn »

The author wants to remove JavaScript from their desktop and does this by disabling all extensions in the hope that it will also disable Gnomes JavaScript engine. What the author does not appear to understand is that extensions are written in JavaScript because Gnome shell is written in JavaScript.

Gnome works very well for my workflow, and I find much of the "bloat" to be quite useful in day to day usage, but can understand the desire to remove things like maps and Tracker if you don't use them. My single biggest issue with Gnome stems from the performance of Gnome-shell which lags and stutters its way through animations leading to a desktop which often feels like it's struggling even on powerful hardware.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by MikkoFinell »

twblalock wrote: post #2

Open-source desktops are never perfect for anyone, but everyone expects them to be. For everyone who says they are too bloated, someone else says they are too spartan. That's probably why there are so many of them. I would expect working on Gnome (or KDE or Cinnamon or Mate or XFCE or LXDE, the list goes on) to be a thankless task. You try to please everybody and yet please nobody. The imperfections of Linux desktops…

I'm satisfied with Cinnamon. If any dev happens to read this: thank you and keep up the good work, it's appreciated.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by pjmlp »

gaius wrote: post #19
yani wrote: post #8

It is a bit of controversal article. There is need for 2 applications a terminal and a browser. Why do you need gnome for that?

Right, mwm would do perfectly and it’s what 25 years old now? Just getting back into Motif myself, love it.

Already too bloated, better use twm instead.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by John_KZ »

taneq wrote: post #20
tumdum_ wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait ~6 months, and you will encounter a case where simple package update will cost you more than that 45 minutes ;)

Maybe, but it's never going to force you to reboot to install some shovelware that you don't want and can't opt out of.

There's a pretty spectacular performance boost too. Microsoft stealing my electricity and computing power to run bloatware and analytics on data they steal from me is just too much. In the past I thought the idea of "really controlling what's going on with your computer" was just purist mambo jumbo, but windows 10 came to prove me wrong.

Re: Lobotomizing Gnome

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Post by aerique »

keyle wrote: post #3

I recently switched to Linux (from Windows 10 - forced upgrade took 45' in the middle of an extremely important moment) Debian netinstall + Mate desktop (Gnome 2/3 extension?) I expected to switch back within a week. Surprisingly, I love it. After a few tweaks and Nvidia drivers installed, it's way better than I expected. Super fast, minimal, and no annoyances. Linux desktop really has improved in the last 20 years,…

I had more or less the same situation with my last remaining Windows machine (mainly for games).

I thought Windows reboots were supposed to get less over the years but it has only gotten worse and I've got less autonomy over them with Windows 10. Go away from your computer for a little while and come back to a reboot (a little hyperbole).

Now my gaming PC run Void Linux and with native Steam and Wine (PlayOnLinux, Lutris) I've got access to most of my game library. It's easier to just ignore the few games that do not work on Linux nowadays.

Diablo 3 runs pretty well on it.

(Still, I prefer to avoid Window'isms on Linux so no Gnome, Pulseaudio and other complications (which Void Linux makes easy to avoid).)

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