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Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

#42
I remember reading people saying that insurance premiums will plummet for Teslas because of how much safer they will be on the road.

Today I read Tesla is getting into the insurance business because premiums are getting out of hand. It makes some sense since internally they’ll have more data they can use to deny claims.

It’s interesting how reality plays out.

https://electrek.co/2018/05/29/tesla-insuremytesla-insurance...

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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post #30

How many non-Autopilot cars have crashed into parked vehicles? It happens a lot, to the extent that a lot of states have “move over” laws explicitly designed to reduce it. Does Autopilot actually make the problem worse, or is it just more newsworthy?

Pardon my ignorance: what is a “move over” law? What do you need to do?

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called "Autosteer". That's misleading to non techies who don't have a firm grasp on the limitations of the tech. They should be legally required to call it something like "lane assist".

You're right, 'lane assist' is probably more appropriate. However, it's not 'autobrake' or 'auto-no-crash', the feature is actually called 'autopilot'. (why does that article say 'autosteer') An autopilot maintains heading, and that's all. Many sailors are not techies --- an autopilot on a boat will run you right into an obstacle.

It says “autosteer” because that’s the name of one of the components. Tesla’s Autopilot is autosteer, traffic-aware cruise control, and some safety features like automatic emergency braking.

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

#46
They should name the feature smart cruise control. Case closed. IT does not imply self driving capability but rather more advanced cruise control system. Which is basically what it is.

Nobody is going to set a cruise control to a certain speed and look away from the road!!!

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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post #43
post #30

How many non-Autopilot cars have crashed into parked vehicles? It happens a lot, to the extent that a lot of states have “move over” laws explicitly designed to reduce it. Does Autopilot actually make the problem worse, or is it just more newsworthy?

Pardon my ignorance: what is a “move over” law? What do you need to do?

It means that when passing a stopped emergency vehicle, you need to change lanes to avoid passing right next to them (“move over”) or slow down substantially.

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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post #6

I really wish all the car manufacturers would stop with this bullshit "you still have to be driving it" self driving nonsense. Claiming that the driver is still responsible for driving the car, while using a system designed to encourage the "driver" to not pay attention is a dumb idea, and all I can see is this kind of thing leading to regulations the delay actual self driving cars. I'm not a self-driving car fanboy…

So then we should ban cruise control too? No, we should educate people how to use new technologies properly.

If Tesla called Autopilot "cruise control with lane-keep assist", I think people would be a lot less likely to abuse it. By calling it Autopilot (and even letting people pay for "full self driving capability" in advance) is enticing people to use it dangerously.

Re: Tesla in autopilot mode crashes into parked Laguna Beach police cruiser

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post #4

“You are about to hit a solid object. Stop.” Why can’t we solve the most basic use case? We don’t have the sensors and it’s all done with cameras?

It’s a solved issue, but Tesla doesn’t use LIDAR so it will never be solved for them.

Why not? Isn't this the solution? I do remember hearing a while back that the cost for a lidar rig was around 5k, but given the fact it would save lives this seems like an obvious move?
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