Ya it's a pretty dick move, especially given your immigration situation. I'd out em... politely.
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#72After talking to a lawyer, burn the company. Post here and on a blog and email TC. Assholes should be called out, and fucking with someone's life like this is indefensible, doubly so when he or she has visa requirements. Remember in the US, truth is a defense to libel. And you're doing this not for yourself, but for karma, helping all the future employees this company will screw over.
Finally, if you want an sf area rails job, contact scribd -- I literally can't imagine them treating an employee this way. And some of the other big rails shops too; I can't give you an exhaustive list, but maybe start with hashrocket (this isn't a rec, I just know the name), pivotal (in the bay area, have a cool product we use at work), etc.
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#73I know it is ridiculous but with your immigration status at stake, don't think of all these. Just go and talk to your current boss. Also, once you get your job back, send http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yR0N5a0R8puacM:http://www... to the company who retracted the offer.
> send http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yR0N5a0R8puacM:http://www.... to the company who retracted the offer.
That would be extremely unwise. If there is one take home lesson from all of this, it is that you NEVER burn your bridges, no matter what.
It's a small world, and you just might have to rely on that person you gave the finger last week tomorrow.
Spectacularly bad advice this.
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#74Name and shame the buggers.
As much as I share this sentiment, I'd advise against it. They were very unprofessional and left you in the lurch, but that's not a reason for you to hit the blogs and start throwing mud. In a few years this company may not even be around any more, but naming and shaming with posts and comments on the net will be around long after this is all a distant memory and that will reflect very badly on you wrt future employe…
I see it differently, personally my allegiance lies with other developers, it is why I was respected even when I was in executive management. Personally, I would feel that it is my responsibility to not let this happen to other developers. Further it is not his responsibility to hid the actions of the wrong. They where in the wrong not him, he should not have to protect their reputation for fear of reprisal by some future employer. I would hire him if he named the name of the company because it is not his duty to protect and cover up their actions.
This is certainly a different case than airing a companies dirty laundry and creating a whinny bitch fest just because you are unhappy with a company for log hours, mismanagement or something similar. In this case a company showed a clear disregard for their actions.
Further outing the company would make this post real in my mind. Color me skeptical, but we all know that there is a lot of back room crap that goes on with getting low wage immigrants in to fill positions. They go to great lengths to do so. It would not at all surprise me if they are AstroTurf'ing boards to scare existing visa holders into "staying put" (HN would be a good place with our visa holder community). I would not put it past them and this is just the kind of post that would do so. So with some real facts the story becomes more credible until then I will remain at least partially skeptical.
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#75I know that you'll look ridiculous when you get back to your old job (if you did). But trust me, it's a lot better than staying JOBLESS especially in this economy.
Especially if it means being kicked out of the country. Being jobless is only a part of the problem here.
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#76You really need to out the company that did this. If not for revenge, do it so that they can't screw anyone else over in a similar situation.
No, sorry he should not do that. His situation is precarious enough as it is, he should play his cards very carefully and not do anything rash or out of revenge.
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I'm having a hard time imagining what a 'rock start engineer' is, and he was trying to find a better gig which is what got him in to all this.
Starting your own company is usually not an option when you're an immigrant on an employers visa (did you read the post?).
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#78We're hiring, email us: jobs@mixpanel.com
i know working for the man isn't popular around these parts, but if someone is looking for a programming job in DC let me know. Its a govt job but I love working here. Lots of freedom to work on projects that you want.
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#80I've been a hiring manager for hundreds of programmers over the years at several companies. With the exception of maybe one or two people I was preparing to get rid of anyway, if any one of the people who quit came back during their notice period with this story I would insist that they stay and fight fiercely with any other forces in the company that might resist it. It also wouldn't lower my esteem for the person.…
I think that it also depends on what terms people are leaving. It's one thing to say you're leaving because you're starting a company and another thing because you're sick of writing mundane database/web applications, using Waterfall instead of Agile etc. or even worse because almost everything is a mess.