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Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by Simon_says »

imgabe wrote: post #5
Simon_says wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something different. The suit is not claiming that there's discrimination in the hiring processes, but in who sees the ads for the jobs in the first place. Should it be illegal to advertise a job or housing in Black Enterprise magazine, because the readers are overwhelmingly African American? Or illegal to advertise in the Wall Street Journal because they're not?

The difference is WSJ doesn't have an option that says "only show this ad to white readers".

That is a difference, but in degree, not in kind.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by p0nce »

afpx wrote: post #2

Excellent news! Up until age 39, I was never not given an offer after interviewing. Now after 40, my offer rate has dropped to 1 in 14. So much for the claims that there is a shortage in tech. So crazy.

Readers: what's your exit strategy? You probably need one.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

#13

Post by zeth___ »

Simon_says wrote: post #11
imgabe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is WSJ doesn't have an option that says "only show this ad to white readers".

That is a difference, but in degree, not in kind.

In the same way the difference between a stabbing and a murder is one of degree, and 2 inches depth.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by seattle_spring »

afpx wrote: post #2

Excellent news! Up until age 39, I was never not given an offer after interviewing. Now after 40, my offer rate has dropped to 1 in 14. So much for the claims that there is a shortage in tech. So crazy.

I'm not saying you're this person, but a lot of people making this claim are also the people that seem argue with literally everything. They always claim they know better. "Oh your team of 8 has spent the last 12 months building this complex webapp with React? Gosh darn millennial hipsters and their FRAMEWORKS. I could have built it with jQuery in a week, and still had a nickel leftover for the trolley!"

Yes I've exaggerated this scenario a bit, but the point stands and it's very real.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by save_ferris »

p0nce wrote: post #12
afpx wrote: post #2

Excellent news! Up until age 39, I was never not given an offer after interviewing. Now after 40, my offer rate has dropped to 1 in 14. So much for the claims that there is a shortage in tech. So crazy.

Readers: what's your exit strategy? You probably need one.

What are some common exit strategies in the industry? It seems like early startup options for employees are more of a lottery ticket than retirement plan.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by jrkatz »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #9

I know almost nothing about the law here, but I imagine intent could be a big part of it. I'm surprised the Bloomberg article seems to make no mention of it. I was also surprised to see this: > Goldman wrote that, “Used responsibly, age-based targeting for employment purposes is an accepted industry practice and for good reason: it helps employers recruit and people of all ages find work.” Why would it ever be accept…

You're assuming they'd be using that to filter people out, but they could simply target ads emphasizing different aspects of the company to different age groups. 'Great kegerator!' for twenty-somethings and 'Great 401k match and relocation packages!' for older groups, or something along those lines.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by rdiddly »

Simon_says wrote: post #11
imgabe wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is WSJ doesn't have an option that says "only show this ad to white readers".

That is a difference, but in degree, not in kind.

You're declaring voluntary and involuntary segregation to be the same. I can read Black Enterprise or the WSJ. I can't read something deliberately hidden from me.

Re: Facebook Tools Are Used to Screen Out Older Job Seekers, Lawsuit Claims

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Post by xphilter »

Simon_says wrote: post #3
afpx wrote: post #2

Excellent news! Up until age 39, I was never not given an offer after interviewing. Now after 40, my offer rate has dropped to 1 in 14. So much for the claims that there is a shortage in tech. So crazy.

This is something different. The suit is not claiming that there's discrimination in the hiring processes, but in who sees the ads for the jobs in the first place. Should it be illegal to advertise a job or housing in Black Enterprise magazine, because the readers are overwhelmingly African American? Or illegal to advertise in the Wall Street Journal because they're not?

You've missed the boat. It'd be akin to White Enterprise magazine checking the race of buyers before a purchase can be made or the ad being seen. That's obviously unlawful.

The question is whether FB is immune from the CDA (depends

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