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Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by kasey_junk »

rayiner wrote: post #200
tptacek wrote: post #187

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Consuming written content on the Internet got materially worse (I might dispute how much worse, but it's a material difference). Consuming any other kind of content on the Internet has gotten so much better it's hard for me to imagine, in the late 1990s, predicting how good it is. I had a laptop hanging 1 hop off a default-free peering core router and never would expected this network to replace all of radio and tele…

Text is really important to me. Video is nice, but I kinda was okay with cable. If I could go back to cable in exchange for JS-less everything else, I’d do it. And really, I guess I should clarify I mean the “web,” not the Internet. Obviously having 100 mbps on your phone is better than 256 kbps into your house. And I know the apps I use (including Apple TV apps) leverage those improvements. But I don’t think video i…

What if someone told you it would be free.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by rayiner »

kasey_junk wrote: post #201
rayiner wrote: post #200

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Text is really important to me. Video is nice, but I kinda was okay with cable. If I could go back to cable in exchange for JS-less everything else, I’d do it. And really, I guess I should clarify I mean the “web,” not the Internet. Obviously having 100 mbps on your phone is better than 256 kbps into your house. And I know the apps I use (including Apple TV apps) leverage those improvements. But I don’t think video i…

What if someone told you it would be free .

If you’d told me that “crap for cheap” would’ve migrated from processed food and Chinese imports to the software industry, I would’ve thought that to be pretty bleak. “In the future, you’ll be using the software equivalent of a Twinkie.”

I bought a copy of BeOS back in the day, and avidly followed the newsletters: https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/benewsletter/Issue2-47..... An honest exchange of currency for useful software; plain HTML content. I miss that tremendously.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by kasey_junk »

rayiner wrote: post #202
kasey_junk wrote: post #201

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What if someone told you it would be free .

If you’d told me that “crap for cheap” would’ve migrated from processed food and Chinese imports to the software industry, I would’ve thought that to be pretty bleak. “In the future, you’ll be using the software equivalent of a Twinkie.” I bought a copy of BeOS back in the day, and avidly followed the newsletters: https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/benewsletter/Issue2-47.... . An honest exchange of currency for use…

Having a fully syncs writing environment that “just works” on all of my various devices & places I write is pretty impressive to me. I’d pay a fair bit of cash for it. But it’s free! It’s easy to be cynical about that but the licenses I paid for in the 90s got me no where near that.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by znpy »

jpetso wrote: post #190
znpy wrote: post #163

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In their defense, last vote was on a working day and not all employers let their employees skip work to vote. It's weird that voting does not take place on a non-working day in the US (like Sunday, for example).

Does the US not have some kind of law that guarantees employees the opportunity to take at least a few hours off work for voting?

No.

Some employers tried making it look fancy to let employees take the day off to go voting so that maybe some other employers would pick up the habit in exchange of some bragging rights but it didn't go very far.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by niutech »

_bxg1 wrote: post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

This is what project AMP is all about: to make websites lightweight again, using radical but effective means. You can feel the difference in desktop Chrome using the AMP Browser Extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amp-browser-extens...

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by StellarTabi »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #116
p49k wrote: post #81

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> Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site? People who are also writing content-based apps and want to write once but still obtain native speeds on mobile? The lack of right-click functionality is just bad design, not React's fault.

Are you talking about Reactive Native? Sounds good on paper, but it's just as fast or slow as a browser because it is a browser, and is far from creating a native app experience on either iOS or Android because it tries to do animation on a JavaScript-style single-threaded execution model among other things. What content-based apps do you have in mind? The Reddit app nobody is using because it doesn't add value to th…

> Reactive Native [...] because it is a browser

Reactive Native's primary selling point (and nature of existence) is that it uses native components instead of wrapping a webview. This is the most obvious, relevant, and hyped detail of React Native. So your statement, "React Native is a browser" implying the same performance penalties as visiting as a website or using Cordova/PhoneGap, is false.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by thirdsun »

niutech wrote: post #205
_bxg1 wrote: post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

This is what project AMP is all about: to make websites lightweight again, using radical but effective means. You can feel the difference in desktop Chrome using the AMP Browser Extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amp-browser-extens...

> This is what project AMP is all about: to make websites lightweight again, using radical but effective means.

It's also completely unnecessary. Those radical means that lead to lightweight websites are plain HTML and CSS with as little JavaScript as necessary. I don't see the point of adding all that bloat, just to have it removed by a third party like Google.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by waddlesplash »

rayiner wrote: post #202
kasey_junk wrote: post #201

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What if someone told you it would be free .

If you’d told me that “crap for cheap” would’ve migrated from processed food and Chinese imports to the software industry, I would’ve thought that to be pretty bleak. “In the future, you’ll be using the software equivalent of a Twinkie.” I bought a copy of BeOS back in the day, and avidly followed the newsletters: https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/benewsletter/Issue2-47.... . An honest exchange of currency for use…

We're still trying to do that with the Haiku project, though we don't have time to write nearly as comprehensive engineering notes as BeOS did, though every now and again for major feature merges we get a writeup (e.g. https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/axeld/2015-07-17_introducing_l...).

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by smsm42 »

When I see a site imploring me to disable my adblocker I think - nope, too late, you ad people screwed up this thing forever, look for a new business model. This one is dead. Or at least, it's dead for me. I am ok with having reasonable number of ads. I am not ok with blowing up site 10x and making my laptop max out CPU and my mobile devices get stuck trying to render all that garbage.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by wlll »

Guest9812398 wrote: post #144
wlll wrote: post #21

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I haven't signed up for an account or given them any data (and specifically made sure that I don't share usage or diagnostic data with them). They are a German company very much covered by GDPR, so I think it's relatively safe to use the tool this way. I'd be happy to hear otherwise though.

Yesterday Ghostery sent out a "Happy GDPR Day" email, which also leaked their users' email addresses in the CC field. I'd say they're off to a rocky start. https://www.reddit.com/r/gdpr/comments/8m3t1s/ghostery_celeb... https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghostery/comments/8m3nqq/did_ghoste...

I've not given them any data, and not signed up for an account, so I wasn't affected by this breach.
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