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Goals vs. Systems (2013)

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Re: Goals vs. Systems (2013)

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Post by karimdag »

deltron3030 wrote: post #28
karimdag wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The example I gave wasn’t a good one. I suggest something else: think of goals as a “module”, it has a function that servers the main objective. This idea of modules is also found in Dr Duckworth’s book: Grit.

The way I see it, goals are the actual thing while objectives are diffuse imaginations of something, or the zoomed out perspective. To get a clear picture of something, you have to zoom in from the diffuse one first. You define your goals after zooming in, because then it's clear what's reachable. A hunter might have the objective to hunt down prey to satisfy his hunger. But at the time he's leaving for hunting he do…

> The way I see it, goals are the actual thing while objectives are diffuse imaginations of something, or the zoomed out perspective. To get a clear picture of something, you have to zoom in from the diffuse one first. You define your goals after zooming in, because then it's clear what's reachable.

This is exactly what I meant !

Re: Goals vs. Systems (2013)

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Post by asfasgasg »

natalyarostova wrote: post #30
RayVR wrote: post #25

The whole idea of ego depletion is controversial and according to this meta-analysis, probably does not exist. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjso.12236

I haven't read the meta-analysis you linked, but based on my prior reading of this topic, I'd suggest it's more correct to say "It probably has not been measured." Whereas it could still exist, but just elude attempts to measure. I also realize you can say this about anything, but ego depletion is one of those topics where it may seem very likely to be true based on our own experience as living humans, but where meas…

Your counterclaim can as easily be said of acupuncture, homeopathy, mindfulness, etc. When a phenomenon that ought to be fairly straightforward to measure defeats repeated attempts to measure it, it is at a minimum fair to say that it probably doesn't exist.

Re: Goals vs. Systems (2013)

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Post by ryanmarsh »

Meta: I want to take a minute to thank the community (and likely the mods) for maintaining a healthy discussion on this post in spite of the author's controversial politics. I feel like we should be able to evaluate his other ideas on their merits rather than devolving into a political fight.

Thank you.

Re: Goals vs. Systems (2013)

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Post by gaius »

By the way, it is only in the past few years that you could replace willpower with knowledge about diet and exercise and get a good result. That’s because much of what science told us in those realms was wrong. When I was a kid, science told us to eat plenty of Wonder Bread

So true. In the UK the government is wringing it’s hands about obesity, introduced a sugar tax but the root cause is simple: it’s what was taught in schools in Home Ec in the 80s and 90s! Eat more bread and potatoes you can never have enough! But never touch fat, and only a little protein! Protein will destroy your kidneys! Basically the exact opposite of what you should do...

But rather than learning from that, they’re meddling again...

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

gaius wrote: post #34

By the way, it is only in the past few years that you could replace willpower with knowledge about diet and exercise and get a good result. That’s because much of what science told us in those realms was wrong. When I was a kid, science told us to eat plenty of Wonder Bread So true. In the UK the government is wringing it’s hands about obesity, introduced a sugar tax but the root cause is simple: it’s what was taught…

Even in the UK the food industry has too much influence over this stuff.
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