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Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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The number that's been kicked around for he value of North American user is about $50/year. So $5/month will cover it.

That's not the number that is being kicked around. Facebook will yield more than $100 per active user in the US and Canada for fiscal 2018. That's going to $200 from here over the next six or seven years (it doubled from 2015 to 2017). No meaningful number of users are paying $15 per month out of pocket for Facebook. Google search is similarly worth a lot per user in the US. People would be irate if they had to pay $…

Last time someone claimed they knew the numbers I asked them to explain how. They disappeared without replying. So I'll ask you the same thing.

If you divide revenue by users you get between $1-$2 USD. I need to know how NA are 50-100 times that.

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the number that is being kicked around. Facebook will yield more than $100 per active user in the US and Canada for fiscal 2018. That's going to $200 from here over the next six or seven years (it doubled from 2015 to 2017). No meaningful number of users are paying $15 per month out of pocket for Facebook. Google search is similarly worth a lot per user in the US. People would be irate if they had to pay $…

Last time someone claimed they knew the numbers I asked them to explain how. They disappeared without replying. So I'll ask you the same thing. If you divide revenue by users you get between $1-$2 USD. I need to know how NA are 50-100 times that.

Facebook publishes revenue per MAU on page 37 of their 2017 annual report:

https://investor.fb.com/financials/default.aspx

Note that it is reported quarterly (I had some numbers but took them out when I realized I was using 1 quarter instead of the year).

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time someone claimed they knew the numbers I asked them to explain how. They disappeared without replying. So I'll ask you the same thing. If you divide revenue by users you get between $1-$2 USD. I need to know how NA are 50-100 times that.

Facebook publishes revenue per MAU on page 37 of their 2017 annual report: https://investor.fb.com/financials/default.aspx Note that it is reported quarterly (I had some numbers but took them out when I realized I was using 1 quarter instead of the year).

OK thanks. Indeed, $100 isn't a bad number to use.

Re: Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

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> "The GDPR explicitly allows any data processing that is strictly necessary for the service - but using the data additionally for advertisement or to sell it on needs the users' free opt-in consent" This is the key point. As the saying goes, on Facebook, you aren't the customer, you are the product. The GDPR just changed this -- rightfully, in my opinion.

Somebody has to pay for it in the end, so Facebook could simply say "agree to targeted advertising and use the site for free or do not agree and pay a monthly fee for the site".

It's important to note that the GDPR doesn't ban ads without consent. It bans tracking users without consent.
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