Earlier quoted context omitted.
Extradition?
Extradition treaties usually limit extradition to things that are punishable in both countries.
Why You Can't Just Block EU Visitors, EU Customers, or Any EU Traffic Under GDPR
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#62I'm a traveler, just because I'm not coming from EU IP address range, doesn't mean I'm not EU citizen with rights established by EU.
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#63What happens when an EU citizen travels to the US and accesses a website?
Note that EU law does apply for visitors, so look forward to data tourism!
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#64Re: Why You Can't Just Block EU Visitors, EU Customers, or Any EU Traffic Under GDPR
#65As somebody who values privacy greatly something about the GDPR just doesn't sit right with me, which is confusing and conflicting because somebody who values privacy should be naturally aligned with it. After thinking long and hard about the GDPR the part that bothers me the most is the expectation from the EU that foreign entities enforce their regulations because the EU cannot bare the political consequences of do…
You can't just build a firewall for data, especially as users will actually willingly export data. You look at the GDPR from a business side only and miss that it is about personal data and how that data has become a commodity that is being traded, mishandled and often abused.
So far none of the US-based services that I use has shut down or blocked me just because I'm under the protection of the GDPR. Those websites we see blocking users have either no interest in the European market (fair enough) or are indeed using shady practices.
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#66There's still the issue of enforcement. If the operators and servers are all outside the EU, how would a user effectively get courts to enforce the GDPR?
And if the EU started going after companies/individuals who don't have presence in the EU because they claim "we say so", well, then the rest of the world can play that game to.
Maybe the rest of the world will put sanctions on EU bureaucrats if EU bureaucrats start trying to shake down companies that have no presence in the EU.
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#67There's still the issue of enforcement. If the operators and servers are all outside the EU, how would a user effectively get courts to enforce the GDPR?
Arrests when an operator visits an EU country? I mean, that's how the US seems to get gambling company CEOs and internet betting site operators...
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#68Someone on reddit noted that this may be true for one more reason: the law does not allow automatic profiling of the user (Article 22) > The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her.
"Article 4 (4): ‘profiling’ means any form of automated processing of personal data " CJEU case law has determined that IP addresses are not considered "personal data" except in certain cases ( https://www.whitecase.com/publications/alert/court-confirms-... ) > The CJEU decided that a dynamic IP address will be personal data in the hands of a website operator if: > 1. there is another party (such as an ISP) that can…
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#69Re: Why You Can't Just Block EU Visitors, EU Customers, or Any EU Traffic Under GDPR
#70As somebody who values privacy greatly something about the GDPR just doesn't sit right with me, which is confusing and conflicting because somebody who values privacy should be naturally aligned with it. After thinking long and hard about the GDPR the part that bothers me the most is the expectation from the EU that foreign entities enforce their regulations because the EU cannot bare the political consequences of do…
Imagine your country claiming taxes from you even though you are an ex-patriate and not living in that country. Oh, that does happen. You can't just build a firewall for data, especially as users will actually willingly export data. You look at the GDPR from a business side only and miss that it is about personal data and how that data has become a commodity that is being traded, mishandled and often abused. So far n…
That's based on international law, while there is no such thing about privacy