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Drones that can haul a 20-pound load for 500 miles and land on a moving target

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Read the article. The founder was an operations guy at Tesla and specifically did the numbers to justify the company based on the need of Tesla parts supply. There is room for this in the supply chain of many firms. There’s a lot of industries where waiting for something can be very expensive.

I worked in a Fortune 50 consumer electronics company, sitting right next to our procurement team. It's not my field and I'm not an expert but I know enough to be wary of a founder who makes such claims, moreover, there's enough data available to piece together what would work and not without having to accept anyone's claims on it. Most companies and their parts suppliers are in cities, wherein there are any number o…

This is also talking about a first generation implementation. Subsequent generations become harder to predict in terms of capability and overhead.

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Most medicine stores well. A flying epi-pen / defibrillator might be really useful, though.

But if you're stuck in a mountain and in an emergency, a drone delivery could be quite the very nice

> But if you're stuck in a mountain and in an emergency, a drone delivery could be quite the very nice

Sure. For the 5 people a year that happens to. Not really enough to build a company around.

The only type of medicine that I can think of that's urgently needed, but that the person wouldn't have the foresight to keep on them is something like snake anti-venom.

If medication is really important, people tend to just bring extras along with them.

Re: Drones that can haul a 20-pound load for 500 miles and land on a moving target

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But if you're stuck in a mountain and in an emergency, a drone delivery could be quite the very nice

> But if you're stuck in a mountain and in an emergency, a drone delivery could be quite the very nice Sure. For the 5 people a year that happens to. Not really enough to build a company around. The only type of medicine that I can think of that's urgently needed, but that the person wouldn't have the foresight to keep on them is something like snake anti-venom. If medication is really important, people tend to just…

hehe point taken

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He did start with web apps though (PayPal).

Well, zip2 then x.com then PayPal. Also sold some program when he was 12 pre the web. Here's some video of him after the zip2 sale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKT3yxYvDQ

That was adorable.

Coincidentally he completely totaled that car on Sand Hill Road with Peter Thiel on a trip to a meeting at Sequoia Capital[0].

[0] https://www.inverse.com/article/26369-elon-musk-peter-thiel-...

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Heh, that's cute. The issue with that is that locating UAV's that are, say 50 meters above the deck, more than 1km from your detector is essentially impossible. Without a VERY dense detection infrastructure, catching these things is not going to happen. Furthermore even though these lasers are very cheap, by army norms, to fire, they're still 600$ or so for a single shot. So shooting down drones will be expensive. Fa…

> Furthermore even though these lasers are very cheap, by army norms, to fire, they're still 600$ or so for a single shot. So shooting down drones will be expensive. Far more expensive than the drones themselves. What is the approximate cost of allowing the drone in?

Depends if we assume they're smuggling or dropping explosives/something dirty.

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Aerones have developed a drone that can haul a human - https://www.aerones.com/eng/news/?text_id=18

so did i :-) We logged a lot of hours with a person onboard who didn't touch the controls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7SjOOuTct0

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I don't get that. Before the sun rises tomorrow, for the US alone, 32 Americans will make a mistake with their car that kills someone (potentially, but unlikely, themselves, 2 will kill themselves, 29 will kill someone else, one will kill 2 others, for a total of 33 deaths). At the same time, a further 2000 Americans will injure someone with a car, and another 3000 will cause severe (I believe > 1000$) property damag…

It's simply that that's not a new risk. Everyone has grown up with knowledge of that risk and accepted it as a given, therefore it is not alarming. I think this is necessary because to constantly evalute and fear ever-present risk would be debilitating. New risks however are alarming, and do trigger the fearful 'better not try that in case the worst happens' response in a lot (the majority?) of people - this probably…

Very much this. I've had entertaining conversations with people who were afraid of electric vehicles because they were afraid that the batteries might catch on fire. I asked about driving around with a tank of highly flammable / explosive liquid under the car, and their only response was "that's different."

We're comfortable with known risks, but new risks are scary.

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Technology like this is why The Wall is a waste of money when it comes to deterring drug trafficking.

You know it's funny with the way it is in the US I see it more as you walling yourself in than keeping others out.

We gunless, pot smoking, socialized medicine, immigrant accepting countries are on the "outside".

I do say that with tongue in cheek.

Re: Drones that can haul a 20-pound load for 500 miles and land on a moving target

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What 20 pound load could have saved the Titanic? Why wouldn't such a miraculous tool or part have been brought aboard already as a precaution?

Flotation devices. They wouldn't save the boat but could help people in the water and don't weigh much. Not sure the technology then for self-inflating boats for people to get out of the cold water, but today you could make self-inflating rafts under 20 pounds.

Which would be better put onto any sea-going vessel before you leave.

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Are these the overhead not-quite-satellites you're talking about ? That would require a drone every 5 km or so. Not - one drone. A drone in the air 24/7 every 5km for a border ~2000 km long.

The system I saw 30 years ago were more ground based and covered tens to hundreds of KMs. But even if you need a drone every 5km (you don't). That's all of 400 drones, 800 if you want to have pairs doing charge-work duty. For an 2000km border guarding operation, that's really not much. An order of magnitude or two cheaper than the fence they would guard.

How did that ground based system solve the horizon problem ? Drones don't fly very high, so you'd need one of these systems, say at 50 meters drone height, ~ every 50km.

That's probably worse than those drones watching from above, seeing as you'd need actual infrastructure at every interval. And, that'd be fixed infrastructure, with fixed blind spots.

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